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« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2013, 12:02:48 PM »

There was a news blurb on NPR last week about youtube getting in trouble for allowing misogynistic videos to get posted. **   The news anchor said,at some point in the piece, [paraphrase] Don't forget that youtube was founded by a bunch of teenage college boys.  That's the culture.[/end paraphrase]

To me,that's the deal with facebook, youtube, myspace, etc.   Their culture is evolving, but don't forget where they started.   They weren't intended to be a mechanism for building substantive relationships. They may get there eventually,but they haven't yet.



** As soon as youtube got called on it, they addressed the issue, pulled the video, disciplined the employees involved,etc.  They handled it well by all accounts.
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« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2013, 06:13:05 AM »

There was a news blurb on NPR last week about youtube getting in trouble for allowing misogynistic videos to get posted. **   The news anchor said,at some point in the piece, [paraphrase] Don't forget that youtube was founded by a bunch of teenage college boys.  That's the culture.[/end paraphrase]

To me,that's the deal with facebook, youtube, myspace, etc.   Their culture is evolving, but don't forget where they started.   They weren't intended to be a mechanism for building substantive relationships. They may get there eventually,but they haven't yet.



** As soon as youtube got called on it, they addressed the issue, pulled the video, disciplined the employees involved,etc.  They handled it well by all accounts.

more of an issue here is keeping kids protected..there is a lot of stuff on Youtube that needs a PG rating, and its difficult to keep kids seeing it accidentally. never mind porn..I really have to supervise my sprogs limited online use; Binweevils and my Little Pony is fine but I need some kind of software that allows her access to ONLY specified sites...
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« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2013, 07:39:04 AM »

The people who complained were feminist groups that threatened to ask sponsors to pull their ads,IIRC. But you're right.I definitely would not allow my young child to browse youtube without close supervision.
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« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2013, 07:49:49 AM »

I agree that the censorship should be as much as possible at the user, not the distributor end.  However, the distributor could provide a PG service, providing a screened channel ...
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« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2013, 07:52:05 AM »

I agree that the censorship should be as much as possible at the user, not the distributor end.  However, the distributor could provide a PG service, providing a screened channel ...

i thinkk if anything it should be from both ends.
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« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2013, 07:57:25 AM »

The issue, as was explained on the news story, is that, by making youtube so easy to use, literally anybody can upload video at any time, so, even though there are filters in place,it's very difficult for their staff to keep up with the volume of material that gets added on a daily basis. 

Of course, they managed to pull the offensive videos as soon as their sponsorship was on the line.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2013, 08:07:14 AM »

The issue, as was explained on the news story, is that, by making youtube so easy to use, literally anybody can upload video at any time, so, even though there are filters in place,it's very difficult for their staff to keep up with the volume of material that gets added on a daily basis. 

Of course, they managed to pull the offensive videos as soon as their sponsorship was on the line.  Roll Eyes

i think there are things which are not offensive in conventional terms..but I have seen clips from violent movies eg Kill Bill which children should not see.
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« Reply #67 on: June 15, 2013, 12:33:20 PM »

I agree that the censorship should be as much as possible at the user, not the distributor end.  However, the distributor could provide a PG service, providing a screened channel ...

I missed this.  There is a screened channel, in which you have to log in and certify that you're above a certain age (18, IIRC?)   I don't think that the borderline videos that might concern the parent of pre-teen qualify for that service,though.  I'm pretty sure that's for "adult" videos.  I wouldn't know.  I've only run across that advisory a few times and never bothered to log in. I figured that,if it's restricted, I don't need to see it.  Grin

Sorry to have taken us so far off topic, btw.  I only mentioned the youtube thing to reinforce the idea that  people's online personnae may be relatively superficial because of the overriding culture in online social networking sites.
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« Reply #68 on: June 15, 2013, 01:04:06 PM »


...people's online personnae may be relatively superficial because of the overriding culture in online social networking sites.
interesting idea - the great homogenizer works on-line as it does in any beurocracy...

Perhaps the only personna we have that matters is the one between ourselves and our dearest - the rest we have no control over anyway.
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« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2013, 01:26:12 PM »

I don't know about homogenizer.    Especially now that facebook has added groups, I find it very useful.

 For example, this week, I touched bases with a guy i worked with in a lab 30 years ago.  I designated him to be in a certain group, so he doesn't get all kinds of junk information about me, but we touched base about my son's birthday and his new grandson.  I'll probably hear from him if anything major happens or every few years. That's fine and,in my mind, a heck of a lot better than being out of touch,like I was when his daughter died several years ago.  I found out more than a year after the fact,and was devastated not to have known.  I would have acknowledged his grief, had I known.  We worked side by side for eight years.  He wasn't a close friend, but I cared about him.

I also touched base with a bunch of cousins about a family reunion and nobody saw that but us.

I also joined a giant bunch of dance-related groups that I never knew existed.

Say what you will.  I find it useful.  But,if you want to get to know me, FB is not the place.
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« Reply #70 on: June 15, 2013, 02:48:50 PM »

In context of personna - as you said above...
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« Reply #71 on: June 15, 2013, 02:57:58 PM »

Yup. Nobody has the whole picture,so don't get your knickers in a twist.
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« Reply #72 on: June 15, 2013, 06:08:58 PM »

Yup. Nobody has the whole picture,so don't get your knickers in a twist.
where did the donut come from Grin
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« Reply #73 on: June 15, 2013, 06:10:45 PM »

*giggle*  I am so confused!
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« Reply #74 on: June 15, 2013, 09:04:47 PM »

er, I stretched that one too far - I was thinking of a 'twister' Tongue
perhaps I was actually missing them - haven't had one in 10 yrs...
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