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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2009, 04:17:36 AM »

I suppose the general question is: in theory, could one dance waltz as 1-2-3, 2-3-1, or 3-1-2 Wink  I would guess that yes, that should be possible since there really are no real pauses ...
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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2010, 11:23:54 PM »

I have a question for you all: do you prefer the 1 - 3 of a natural turn to be in a continuous type fashion whereby it is hard to distinguish between the end of the 1 - 3 of a natural turn and the start of a spin turn, or do you prefer to see them seperated. I know this is a question based upon stylistic interpretation, but i only came across this idea of continuity through these steps over the last week and wanted to see how popular this styling is.

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If I am understanding correctly, there should be some sense of both in a natural waltz movement, regardless, yes? One should not rush the succeeding walk from the rise w/o properly executing the lower. Yet, one should neither stop the movement at the lower, thus disconnecting the succeeding step, and interrupting the natural/desired float of the dance.     Huh

Therefore you should use up the the whole music and movement through the feet, so it moves effortlessly form one to the other. Our NV coach says that there should be no stopping and make it oooze! We have not yet achieved the latter but working on it.
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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2010, 08:20:05 PM »

I've just started swaying to the right and then righting to neutral before I begin to lower for the backstep into the next figure.
At the moment we're doing a natural turn into an overturned spin turn, turning lock to the right and then into reverse weave. A nice combination which gets us down the floor quickly and in some semblance of style. When we do it properly that is...
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2010, 08:48:30 PM »

Ok, this one is for the guys (or girls, if you have an opinion too). Do guys usually leave their head out looking left or do they look back into the lady?
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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2010, 08:58:09 PM »

they take their head out to the left - while looking back at the lady Wink
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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2010, 09:31:05 AM »

I think V keeps his head to the left
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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2010, 03:51:20 PM »

actually I think P does too, at least now after todays lesson
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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2010, 06:06:20 PM »


I actually never have a syllabus couple start with a 1-3 of a Natural Turn as they can’t get the flight and therefore the swing on the Natural Turn that is needed to do it nice. Again that is my opinion and I totally accept that others don’t agree with me.


From what I've seen, in American style syllabus, nearly every routine that begins in closed frame begins with a reverse turn.  Maybe that's why. 


We start our standard waltz with a natural spin turn (so after the prep step we get 1-3 of a natural turn). Now obviously I dance pro-am, but the local guys who also do pro-am with their teachers, also seem to start with it. Maybe it's a local thing. My american waltz does not start with a reverse turn, however.
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« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2010, 07:45:12 PM »

I think to be able to get the swing in the first three of a natural if you are using it as your first step in a routine that you must use a prep step, to aid momentum. I dont think you can do the 1-3 natural turn from a standing start..well perhaps the good ones can  Tongue
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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2010, 09:22:12 PM »

Interesting that this comes up now as we are just working on this. 

It turns out that not all prep steps are created equal. The common one is a step backwards to build the momentum for the first step of the natural turn.  Ours is now forwards to do the same thing!
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« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2010, 11:36:51 PM »

My prep step is to side on right and forward on left. Don't know if this is common or not.
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« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2010, 01:02:10 AM »

My prep step is to side on right and forward on left. Don't know if this is common or not.

we step to the side also...to the left and then back on the right..but don' rely on me..... my left and rights are know to be notorious the wrong way around. Shocked
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« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2010, 01:44:00 AM »

My prep step is to side on right and forward on left. Don't know if this is common or not.
I think that side step feels like a back step to the responder because its combined with CBM

(hi there P Wink )
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« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2010, 02:15:33 AM »

possibly,  but I can feel  a definite step to the side before moving off into CBM
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« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2010, 05:13:32 AM »

My prep step is to side on right and forward on left. Don't know if this is common or not.
I think that side step feels like a back step to the responder because its combined with CBM

(hi there P Wink )

Agreed. And on the head thingy... definitely held (leftward) in place.
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