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« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2013, 11:11:44 PM »

I think one of the reasons we went to Masters

Masters I = 35-50
Masters II 50-60
Masters III 60 +

I know in Europe there is also Seniors IIII

having said that they are grouped slightly differently. We danced Seniors III in Europe and boy they are good!
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« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2013, 11:17:32 PM »

Yes.  I think  lot depends on how the age groups are defined.
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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2013, 05:06:01 AM »

thats why they created the Senior II (over 45) and Senior III (over 50 or 55).  I had a friend who would qualify for Senior VI, if there was one Tongue

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« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2013, 07:41:50 AM »

My argument has flaws, yes.  But still,there's something about calling 35 senior that makes me think, "Dang! Old = old." *sigh*
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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2013, 08:21:59 AM »

My argument has flaws, yes.  But still,there's something about calling 35 senior that makes me think, "Dang! Old = old." *sigh*
thats why I prefer the term 'master's' - there's a respect and sense of achievement, rather than just worn out!
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« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2013, 08:24:06 AM »

Of course, it also implies that you're good at it, which is not always a given.  Grin
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« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2013, 09:55:54 AM »

I still prefer Masters more respectful
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« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2013, 10:29:33 AM »

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« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2013, 01:41:35 PM »

It would make more sense if it were a catagory that the under-35 set moved up into - then they really would be masters.  However, its mostly older couples who have just started dancing. 

So we need a new name - someone has to do it and PDO never shirks a leadership opportunity... Grin
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« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2013, 04:22:36 PM »

I want to ask my question again, since I'm still not clear.

Take Arunas and Katusha for example. Top of their game.  Winners at Blackpool. Both in their thirties, I think.  They will get to compete together in the pro category until they retire and/or defeated,no matter how old they get.  OTOH if,for some reason, they had chosen to delay competing until after they both turned 35, they would have to compete as seniors.  Is that right?
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« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2013, 04:34:51 PM »

I want to ask my question again, since I'm still not clear.

Take Arunas and Katusha for example. Top of their game.  Winners at Blackpool. Both in their thirties, I think.  They will get to compete together in the pro category until they retire and/or defeated,no matter how old they get.  OTOH if,for some reason, they had chosen to delay competing until after they both turned 35, they would have to compete as seniors.  Is that right?
Currently `seniors`is only an amateur catagory - there is no pro-seniors.

Also, just because you are over 35 does not mean you are excluded from the adult catagory, it only means the adults can not dance in the senior one.  A one way valve if you like.

Thus, if you are 55 you can compete in adult, senior seniorI AND seniorII.

And so it should be.

The question whether there should be a pro-senior (I`m sure they would call that masters) catagory has come up often.  I wish they would - then we could watch past greats competing again.  But there are reasons why it has not happened - including the ones who reached the top dont want a later record where they are beaten by people they never competed against before with an age handicap. 
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« Reply #56 on: June 13, 2013, 05:21:16 PM »

So, if you're an amateur, you have the option to compete at a (presumable) disadvantage if you want?

And as for the pros, the competition part doesn't matter that much to me (although I may be in the minority  Grin )  but it sure would be nice to see some past champions on the floor together, egging each other on. Cool Maybe a team comp or a formation?
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« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2013, 07:02:06 AM »

Yes the Professional ranks is an interesting one. It is quite relentless for training to stay at the top and I am sure they just need a break  and earn some money teaching. Once professional they cant go back to Amateur status. and if they generally go out on top so they are not seen to be sliding down the ladder as the young guns come through.

the often start doing floor shows especially in Japan where they are all demi gods Cheesy
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« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2013, 07:09:09 AM »

I suppose that's not so different from other fiercely competitive sports (I'm thinking about ice skating for example.) Competitors may be at the top for a few years, but then there's really no outlet for all that talent, other than exhibitions.
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« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2013, 09:23:28 AM »

I suppose that's not so different from other fiercely competitive sports (I'm thinking abut ice skating for example.) Competitors may be at the top for a few years, but then there's really no outlet for all that talent, other than exhibitions.
seems a waste n'est pas?
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