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« on: August 02, 2009, 09:21:44 PM »

I got to thinking the other day about how often I look at my Facebook account, and how seldom I check my personal email.  This is in part because most of the email I receive is spam.  In comparison, it doesn't appear that anyone has figured out a way to spam Facebook yet.  This has a lot to do with the fact that Facebook is a trust network; I can choose to trust and receive messages only from whom I want. 

People have been doing research on how to do trust networks with email for years.  But Facebook, and other social networking sites, have already gone and implemented it.  So is this the end of email?  In the future, will there be people on Facebook who don't bother getting email accounts, in the way that we now have lots of people who have cell phones but not land lines?  I wonder.  I imagine that email will continue to be used in corporate networks, but it will probably be limited to destinations that agree on encryption exchange. 
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2009, 09:45:45 PM »

Yes very valid point...but on the other hand, at the moment more people have email accounts than a social network account.
Is there a way to link email to facebook. i.e. you can keep an address book of all the people you know, and when you send them "emails", it either goes to their email account or their Facebook account depending which they have...and vice versa

And I am very surprised that Facebook accounts never get spammed...Myspace accounts get spammed all the time! A big thumb up to the Facebook team!
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2009, 10:28:37 PM »

The trouble with 'trust' networks is - can you trust them?  The temptation is so large to start targeting advertising to your personal interests - and for htat to screeen and stereotype via your messages. 

Obviously no system is immune from that but FB declares itself openly to not only access your information itelf but to let (unknown) third parties do so.

I'd rather have a good spam filter...
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 08:34:35 AM »

so far so good with facebook. but like with skype someone will find away to infiltrate you.  I have seen that in my notifications that someone has sent me  a treat or a hug etc. and when I check with the person they did not sent it, so it is the program that has done it...not nice.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2009, 11:06:45 AM »

Is there a way to link email to facebook. i.e. you can keep an address book of all the people you know, and when you send them "emails", it either goes to their email account or their Facebook account depending which they have...and vice versa
I can do that with the FB application on my Blackberry, actually.  RIM is still working on better address book integration, but it's coming along.  I can choose an address book contact and choose to send a message via e-mail, SMS, MMS, Facebook or GTalk.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2009, 09:16:31 PM »

I'd rather have a good spam filter...

I've had the same email address for 17 years.  After that amount of time, there's no such thing as a good spam filter.  I get about 40 spams a day, nearly all either porn or Nigerian scammers.  The Apple Mail junk filter does a pretty good job of flagging them, but it false-positives just often enough that I can't trust it to delete them automatically.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2009, 09:31:27 PM »

The Spams sort of come and go. I've had my email address for 4 years now. There was a time I got spammed by the Nigerian scammer (possible the same as cornutt) and porn every single day. Now they just magically disappeared.  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2009, 10:37:11 PM »

I, too, get period of spam and non-spam. At most I'll get one a week, but usually it's closer to one a month.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2009, 11:56:27 AM »

Unfortunately for me, I have a pretty common name.  So that means if I register an e-mail address with my first name and last name, I'm an instant spam bulls-eye.  It's a royal pain.  And spam filters only do so much.  I have the same issue as Cornutt in that I get enough false positives that I can't trust it to work automatically.
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2009, 12:22:15 PM »

Another factor is that the company I work for has banned access to webmail-type services from the work network, and I suspect a lot of other companies have too.  (Because it provides a backdoor for viruses to enter the corporate network.)  Among other things, that means that I can't access my personal email while I'm on work travel.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2009, 12:33:04 PM »

I sure hope e-mail is not out. If my students want to get hold of me that or a phone call is the only choice they have. I just don't have the time or drive to look a lot of places for my mail. I already have several email for my businesses and one more place is just not an option.
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2009, 02:06:12 PM »

I just get it all forwarded to my Blackberry - including the work e-mail.  It makes it so much easier to have everything centrally located.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2009, 10:39:29 PM »

I'm a big emailer.
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2009, 05:19:55 AM »

Another factor is that the company I work for has banned access to webmail-type services from the work network, and I suspect a lot of other companies have too.  (Because it provides a backdoor for viruses to enter the corporate network.)  Among other things, that means that I can't access my personal email while I'm on work travel.

we have webmail - and I hate it.  Ours has no directory services and is rife with spam.

But why not use yahoo as your personal email account?  You can access that from anywhere you can get on internet - and as I said, the spam filter is awesome... (with the small annual fee) also there is very little advertising iwth a paid account
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2009, 05:32:50 AM »

I think the time is ripe for a  messenger email halfbreed; so all the forum/facebook/pms & emails can get get shunted into a little box on your computer. had an interesting conversation with Cap jep and we were using pms here DF and email; totally nerdy.. but it will have heavy filters so you pick the recipients;

I mean FB is rife with trivia; worse than tabloid newspapers.

patent applied for; but any good names for this application would be welcome....."cut the crap" comes to mind but thats too long.

Occam's Razor might be appropriate
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