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GreenEyes26
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« Reply #90 on: March 09, 2011, 11:41:22 PM »

In Latin, pendulum swing never takes over.  Once the metronomic motion is exhausted, it has to be re initiated.  You keep your body metronomically (is that even a word?) tipped in athletic position if you want to keep moving forward.  It feels like you're the Leaning Tower of Pisa but in the mirror it looks like you're just standing straighter than usual.  Keeping your body metronomic also lets your legs swing underneath you with a straight knee naturally (without having to straighten the knee).  In Latin, metronomic motion stays in the body, which causes the legs to react to catch your weight: so the leg action looks a lot faster since the legs are working out of reflex.  Using reflexes rather than conscious muscular control makes it less draining and requires a lot less effort.  Also the balance is a lot better.  This is why I said falling is "required": reflexes don't kick in unless it's real.  Latin has one "swing" dance which is Jive, and Standard has one Latin-ey dance (I'm inventing all sorts of words!) which is Tango (each movement is metronomic and never pendulum swing).        

I think I finally get what you're saying. It sounds like the action is then out of the dancer's control: oh boy. I need a lesson in falling. Smiley
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« Reply #91 on: March 10, 2011, 01:26:45 PM »

Now, that shows you what a few lessons in falling can do for you. Get up and get on with it....with ease. Thank you for posting that SG. Most top couples learn to fall and that is why they are able to go beyond what most others do. They have found the edge.

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« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2011, 01:28:32 PM »

I think I finally get what you're saying. It sounds like the action is then out of the dancer's control: oh boy. I need a lesson in falling. Smiley
Yep, when you let go of control is when your body truly gains control.  If you make conscious actions you never give your body the chance to take control and hence you never let your body demonstrate its full potential. 
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Dora-Satya Veda
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« Reply #93 on: March 17, 2011, 06:43:41 PM »

I think I finally get what you're saying. It sounds like the action is then out of the dancer's control: oh boy. I need a lesson in falling. Smiley
Yep, when you let go of control is when your body truly gains control.  If you make conscious actions you never give your body the chance to take control and hence you never let your body demonstrate its full potential. 

My teacher often said "When you let go of control then you gain more control than you ever though possible"

DSV
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« Reply #94 on: March 17, 2011, 10:12:43 PM »

Was talking recently with my son about the lessons in being "supported", in losing the feeling of falling, that we've learned the past couple years, and he gave a great analogy... that of a ping pong ball that is supported in the air by someone's breath. That's the experience we each have had... as long as we allowed that support and relinquished the fear of falling, we remained in the experience of being supported like that. And that is so powerful... it's liberating. Even though one has given up all fear of falling and one *could* ostensibly fall without that support... the knowing that one is supported, that that is part of natural Law and the order of the universe... that allows so much delicious freedom and peace.

It's been transformational. And I've noticed body & movement changes that seem to correlate with it. Very cool to observe & experience. Smiley
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« Reply #95 on: March 17, 2011, 10:32:11 PM »

Nice analogy Sam ... compliments to your son Wink Smiley
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« Reply #96 on: March 18, 2011, 09:23:42 AM »

I'm terrified of falling and I know it. I'm afraid of it all the time in Latin. I like to think that if I could conquer that fear, I could do anything - lol.
Try to do this - it worked for me.
Go home - stand 1 foot away fom your bed--FALL face first on your bed. Do it every day. You know the bed is soft and will catch/support you. Next step - stand on your bed and fall. Don't you remember jumping on your bed as a kid?  Same idea.
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« Reply #97 on: March 18, 2011, 09:35:40 AM »

I'm terrified of falling and I know it. I'm afraid of it all the time in Latin. I like to think that if I could conquer that fear, I could do anything - lol.
Try to do this - it worked for me.
Go home - stand 1 foot away fom your bed--FALL face first on your bed. Do it every day. You know the bed is soft and will catch/support you. Next step - stand on your bed and fall. Don't you remember jumping on your bed as a kid?  Same idea.
gonna do tonight... great sensation! Smiley
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« Reply #98 on: March 18, 2011, 10:07:23 AM »

Try to do this - it worked for me.
Go home - stand 1 foot away fom your bed--FALL face first on your bed. Do it every day. You know the bed is soft and will catch/support you. Next step - stand on your bed and fall. Don't you remember jumping on your bed as a kid?  Same idea.
Great idea Skipper!  I wish I knew this.
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« Reply #99 on: May 07, 2011, 01:25:07 PM »

Interesting choice of song, good demonstration of it too, perfect for this thread!   Cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7L-ziLQ92U
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« Reply #100 on: May 07, 2011, 11:46:32 PM »

Have to wait - can't do Utube on my BBry
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« Reply #101 on: June 03, 2011, 08:14:27 PM »

Interesting choice of song, good demonstration of it too, perfect for this thread!   Cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7L-ziLQ92U

Love the song. Great demonstration of falling. Otherwise, I don't like it. <ducks for cover>
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ancora imparo
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« Reply #102 on: June 06, 2011, 03:36:01 AM »

Why duck for cover?  Nothing wrong with having an opinion.
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« Reply #103 on: June 06, 2011, 06:10:32 AM »

Why duck for cover?  Nothing wrong with having an opinion.

...twas my thought too. 
And BTW, ducks don't make very good cover, they tend to squawk a lot - unless you mean a duck feather coverlet, they work beautifully Roll Eyes
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« Reply #104 on: June 06, 2011, 12:41:27 PM »

Interesting choice of song, good demonstration of it too, perfect for this thread!   Cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7L-ziLQ92U
love this so much. the sensitivity of her feet...how she waits for him and responds so fluidly...how connected their nervous systems seem to be, so exquisitely passing the "baton" of their energy and action back & forth...how she completes the trajectory of her movement and is in such deep sensation of her dancing...and yet how light.

exquisite. oh yah... the falling too. Wink
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