The Advice topic

[QPO]

well dang...we had no idea we did that...spooky, we just have lived with each other way too long! 

[Dora-Satya Veda]

wax on, wax off

That is the way I have always been taught, both for life and dancing. That is what I was doing this last week. Love it

[Vagabond]

wax on, wax off

That is the way I have always been taught, both for life and dancing. That is what I was doing this last week. Love it

You are making me curious now DSV, very curious

[elisedance]

...and I thought we were talking about depilatories....

[Bordertangoman]

take it allegorically - thats my way of getting on with life

'grasshopper' is from kung-fu-Kane (David Carradine, who just died very mysteriously in a hotel room BTW), a TV series about a western guy who returns to the US after growing up in nepal or somwhere like that and wanders small town-to small town with someone chasing him but always doing good with his eastern buddhist training and martial arts skills.... he has flash backs to his training as a child when he was called 'grasshopper' by the guru.

So 'grasshhopper' is neophyte.  So far so good.

'open your eyes' or 'the blow of the fist will otherwise kiss your cheeks'.
OK, I'm too

Sounds like he is saying open your eyes so that you can avoid the sting of love...  but that means running away I think.

OK V, help us out here

now you sound like the I-Ching or E-D=Ching.

The General Meaning

M?ng (indicates that in the case which it presupposes) there will be progress and success. I do not (go and) seek the youthful and inexperienced, but he comes and seeks me. When he shows (the sincerity that marks) the first recourse to divination, I instruct him. If he apply a second and third time, that is troublesome; and I do not instruct the troublesome. There will be advantage in being firm and correct.

[Vagabond]

take it allegorically - thats my way of getting on with life

'grasshopper' is from kung-fu-Kane (David Carradine, who just died very mysteriously in a hotel room BTW), a TV series about a western guy who returns to the US after growing up in nepal or somwhere like that and wanders small town-to small town with someone chasing him but always doing good with his eastern buddhist training and martial arts skills.... he has flash backs to his training as a child when he was called 'grasshopper' by the guru.

So 'grasshhopper' is neophyte.  So far so good.

'open your eyes' or 'the blow of the fist will otherwise kiss your cheeks'.
OK, I'm too

Sounds like he is saying open your eyes so that you can avoid the sting of love...  but that means running away I think.

OK V, help us out here

now you sound like the I-Ching or E-D=Ching.

The General Meaning

M?ng (indicates that in the case which it presupposes) there will be progress and success. I do not (go and) seek the youthful and inexperienced, but he comes and seeks me. When he shows (the sincerity that marks) the first recourse to divination, I instruct him. If he apply a second and third time, that is troublesome; and I do not instruct the troublesome. There will be advantage in being firm and correct.

I haven't heard Meng being quoted for a long time, the ancient classics have become somewhat disbanded by the west especially the book of changes, book of poetry and shang shu

[Bordertangoman]

I am not familiar with the last two. Please say more.

I mostly got the foolish quaetion response with the I ching

[Vagabond]

The rites of Zhou, Chu Ci, Yili, the book of changes, book of poetry and shang shu are all part of the ancient classics. More broadly speaking, Chinese classic texts may refer to texts, be they written in vernacular Chinese or in classical Chinese, that existed before 1912, when the last imperial Chinese dynasty, the Qing Dynasty, fell.

A good place to research is http://chinese.dsturgeon.net/text.pl?node=3925&if=en

Have fun, it will keep you busy for a while, A part I had to study was Sun Tzu on The Art of War

[dream a little dream]

Fascinating!
Thanks, V, now I won't get any work done today for sure!

[Vagabond]

Fascinating!
Thanks, V, now I won't get any work done today for sure!

Your most welcome

[elisedance]

wonderful as the advice may bein some of these thext, the problem was they (and the whole of chinese society) became dogma making it very difficult for social and economic evolution.... there was some point to Mao's cultural revolution (even though it threw out the baby as well as teh bathwater)

[Bordertangoman]

well I have read The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Internal Medicine.

[elisedance]

its a little known fact that the Yellow Emperor was actually a german with jaundice seeking a cure...

[Vagabond]

wonderful as the advice may bein some of these thext, the problem was they (and the whole of chinese society) became dogma making it very difficult for social and economic evolution.... there was some point to Mao's cultural revolution (even though it threw out the baby as well as teh bathwater)

I agree, it is good to read about cultures/civilisations and to learn what they did right but foremost what they did wrong. A to rigid civil structure leads to decent and unrest, it promotes classes and forget to care about the vulnerable.

[elisedance]

its all about not repeating wrong, right?