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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2009, 11:57:15 AM »

I did one coaching session with my old pro - and he charged half rate.  What galls a bit though is that for some of it, the coach taught us both!  I do think it gets a bit rediculous.  External coaching sessions (pro with external coach) should not be necessary at syllabus levels - else why is your pro teaching at all if s/he can not do so up to gold?  They can be useful at higher levels - and IMO at that point the pro/am relationship has changed from just one of student/teacher to also a partnership - and external coaches should be encouraged to look at the partnershp aspect, not the teaching one.  Again, IMO I don't think the pro should charge at all and see it as an opportunity to improve their dancing. 

Note that once you get to open (schollarship) in pro/am you are have to take many lessons and you may be paying for your pro's trips to competitions by yourself.

I disagree with you here, I found coaching extremely helpful (we do it every couple of months or so), and btw, even for the silver level, we still mostly work on things like technique and partnership. Also, I disagree that he should not charge - it is still his time and it's not like he is not an active participant. It's nice if he gives you a break, but I don't think he is morally obligated to do so.
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2009, 01:39:00 PM »

I compete in Open Pro-Am and my Pro never charges a fee when I have coaching sessions.

Like you say - at this level we are really working on partnership and less on syllabus.

He is of the same opinion as ED.  He gets to work with high-level coaches for free and learns and improves his own dancing.
And this is someone who is already an excellent teacher.  It is so great to work with a dance professional who is continually working on their own dance skills. 

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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2009, 09:11:40 AM »

the more the merrier I say. well to have a regular one and guest ones is always good..what do others think about that?
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2009, 09:40:07 AM »

I believe 1 main coach/teacher. but then together get coaching. or if my main coach tells me I need coaching then go to whomever he thinks will help me most.
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2009, 08:30:16 AM »

Different coaches for different things.  When I start getting too technical and start losing my way my teacher brings in this coach from T.O. and he gives me a tune up, brings back my musicality and my flow.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2009, 11:04:44 PM »

We have four, two female (latin & standard) and two male (latin & stanadard) and realize you need both points of view.  If we did just one style then we would have just one male and female with perhaps a guest one now and then.   
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2009, 12:10:32 AM »

We have four, two female (latin & standard) and two male (latin & stanadard) and realize you need both points of view.  If we did just one style then we would have just one male and female with perhaps a guest one now and then.   

Sounds to me like you are on a good path there.
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2009, 04:27:44 AM »

But R, are these coaches also dance partners with common training?  In which case the training may not be quite as diverse..
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2009, 09:45:21 PM »

they are a very diverse lot EE. not only in teaching style but also in age. I will take two different points of view well taught  over one any day. let me also state that I am a very good dance monkey: I copy well but understand little.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2009, 10:36:24 PM »

blue tango: who would that coach from toronto be?
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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2009, 11:08:02 PM »

they are a very diverse lot EE. not only in teaching style but also in age. I will take two different points of view well taught  over one any day. let me also state that I am a very good dance monkey: I copy well but understand little.

if you are a 'dance monkey' (your term Wink) then what do you do when the two coaches teachings are very different?
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2009, 11:24:41 PM »

Ask his partner to explain.  Grin
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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2009, 06:18:49 AM »

Cheesy
yes, and she's no dance monkey ....
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« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2009, 10:37:12 PM »

by dance monkey I mean only that ,in general, I can copy new concepts if shown properly even though I dont understand . perhaps I am being mean to the monkey
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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2009, 10:47:56 PM »

Ah, monkey see, monkey do.
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