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« on: May 11, 2009, 12:06:22 AM »

This is for waltzelf...here you can write things about the more advance requirements of new vogue...Of course anyone who does not do NV can ask questions here. :-)
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 02:37:22 AM »

Haha, you're awesome Cheesy

To kick the advanced NV discussion off, then - let's discuss effective ways for the man to lead NV that will ensure that he can be confident in what his partner is doing at any given moment, without creating the appearence that he is manhandling her.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 03:50:52 AM »

Yes yes ... a skill us men very much need to learn to make NV enjoyable for not only the audience but also our partner.

We worked a bit on this yesterday, mainly in the Tracie Leigh Waltz.
Important part is use the body and inside arm (as that's the only connection). We've introduced a third dimension to our new vogue. Well not sure if you heard of this or agree with it, but here's our definition of the three dimensions. First - down the floor; second - into the floor; third - parallel to the floor. (ie. use of body extension in the direction parallel to where you are travelling).

As in shadow hold dances, we think of 3 connection points to keep everything in synchronize with one another. One - my right pelvis to my girl's left hip; Two - my right shoulder to my girl's left shoulder blade; Three - my right elbow to my girl's right back

Anything you want to add or discuss on top of that?
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 04:28:48 AM »

[nice idea QPO - look forward to learning lots Wink]
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 05:16:14 AM »

I hope to as well... unfortunately Mummsie is away and she is the most experience one of the Aussies I think.. I am trying to recruit others that know way more than I about the nuances of NV

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 08:45:37 AM »

Perhaps we should focus on a dance, we can start with the Swing Waltz, footwork, body movement arms etc. perhaps explain what you are working on to improve that dance. we can then talk about another style later.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2009, 09:16:57 PM »

Hey SwingWalt! That's me!  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 09:56:53 PM »

yes I can't help you named yourself after a dance Wink
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2009, 09:58:50 PM »

Had another lesson in the dance last night and trying to slow it down even more. Some parts I am doing well others I am rushing. Using the heels more into the floor to slow it down. I am not sure what you do , especially in the first 8 steps. 
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2009, 08:47:28 AM »

I did a solo swingwaltz the other day and realised just how much I rely on my partner for balance. I must fix that.
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2009, 08:53:01 AM »

yes, it is something that you must be able to dance it on your own, it is  a very good test to do with all the dances, worked on softening the arms tongiht and slowing down the last turn under before the vw at the end. trying to slow down the dance. taking the bizzy out of it
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2009, 09:29:17 AM »

I did a solo swingwaltz the other day and realised just how much I rely on my partner for balance. I must fix that.

I let go of my partner when she does that.


A few months later and she's as light as a feather to dance with.
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2009, 07:24:09 AM »

I am trying to do the dances on my own as well, I need to know that my balance is my responsibility and not my partners. Much easier said than done but it is a gaol I am working on
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2009, 02:34:26 AM »

have been doing a lot of practice on my own.....getting better and trying to slow myself down especially in Swing Waltz, but that can back fire when they play the music fast!
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2009, 12:33:00 AM »

One of the hardest things to do in the Swing Waltz is to close your feet neatly.  Because of the speed of the music, the feet tend to get away from you. Also on the step swings, its hard to get a nice swivel going if you are too high in your body.  This again happens because of the speed of the music.  We have been doing a lot of practice of these two swivels and its very hard to control and not pop up in the shoulders.   Cheesy - mummsie
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