Should they introduce new Dances into New Vogue

[waltzelf]

Well we would never consider doing Latin, it is a young persons thing. NV Latin could be for another group no-one says that everyone has to learn it, we all choose what we will specialise in.

some find tht they sit there all day we big gaps during the performance times...Its about choice..

I think you missed my point ;-)

I wouldn't do Latin New Vogue either - 3 styles is enough. However, we would still have to sit and watch it while waiting for the results at the end of the program.

A fourth serious style would extend the length of a competition to much. There is no room for it, as simple as that. Especially with the new push to have social and individual competitions amongst the amateur and professional. I do not want to be making my way home at 2 am in the morning because organisers keep adding styles to the program.

[waltzelf]

We could possibly get rid of a few of the NV dances and bring some new ones in but no, no NV Latin please.

I think it is always good to review what is done to keep it up-to-date. I find that some organisations dont like change. It is good to discuss the different views

The 15 competition New Vogue dances that are currently there are ok. There's a nice balance between beginner and advanced, basic and "open for creativitiy" dancing across the four rhythms. There's a nice sense of progression from Merrilyn to Charmaine and Carousel, to Barclay Blues and finally Excelsior (for example), and it's a pretty gentle learning curve compared to Latin and Ballroom.

Personal distaste aside, which New Vogue dances do you think don't belong, and what would you replace them with? I hate the Tangoette, but it's a very good initiation dance to the La Bomba and Tango Terrific.

I guess what I'm saying is that the 15 New Vogue competition dances are good, because they provide a good balance and even and fair learning curve for people. I can't imagine any dance not having its place in competition.

[QPO]

Well we would never consider doing Latin, it is a young persons thing. NV Latin could be for another group no-one says that everyone has to learn it, we all choose what we will specialise in.

some find tht they sit there all day we big gaps during the performance times...Its about choice..

I think you missed my point ;-)

I wouldn't do Latin New Vogue either - 3 styles is enough. However, we would still have to sit and watch it while waiting for the results at the end of the program.

A fourth serious style would extend the length of a competition to much. There is no room for it, as simple as that. Especially with the new push to have social and individual competitions amongst the amateur and professional. I do not want to be making my way home at 2 am in the morning because organisers keep adding styles to the program.

Perhaps it could be done over two days then, with Social/medalist etc on a particular day and others on another....so that each group does not have to be there for both days unless they wish to observe.

I understand what you are alluding to but that is no reason not to consider it.

[mummsie]

I don't think any of the latin New Vogue should be included in comps.  It would make the comp go for at least another 4-5 hours if they had to put them in for every grade and age group.  If they did that they would also have to do the standard style New Vogue dances - like the dream and alpha (where does it end)!!  The comp organisers have a hard enough time now to work out the programms - I have worked on 3 for major comps when I was the secretary of the Australian Dancesort Federation which was swallowed up by Dancesport Australia.  I would however like to have a couple of different marches as there are some really nice ones that are really enjoyable to do and drop ETS and Gyspy Tap.  Besides that the current 15 are enough to have to learn from a competitive point of view without adding another 15 or so latin/standard dances. - Mummsie 

[QPO]

Don't I know that also, we are currently learning five NV dances for comps in the coming months. there will always be pros an cons to it and obviously time is an issue. Perhpas they should review dances and rotate every five years? Take some out and put others in.

As for ETS I gree currently learning it for the Canberra Comp. Interesting dance  I am sure there must be others but ETS & GT are the only two I know as well.

[mummsie]

there are a couple of great ones - Militaire and the Barcelona are a couple more.  I did the militaire last night in a general dance.  Always good fun. - mummsie

[QPO]

there are a couple of great ones - Militaire and the Barcelona are a couple more.  I did the militaire last night in a general dance.  Always good fun. - mummsie

Is the Miltaire the same as the Military Two Step?

[Lioness]

there are a couple of great ones - Militaire and the Barcelona are a couple more.  I did the militaire last night in a general dance.  Always good fun. - mummsie

Is the Miltaire the same as the Military Two Step?

I don't think it would be. That's what crossed my mind at first but it's not really a march, and it really doesn't have the potential to be a comp dance.

[QPO]

there are a couple of great ones - Militaire and the Barcelona are a couple more.  I did the militaire last night in a general dance.  Always good fun. - mummsie

Is the Miltaire the same as the Military Two Step?

I don't think it would be. That's what crossed my mind at first but it's not really a march, and it really doesn't have the potential to be a comp dance.

I hope not! that would be awful...M2S 

[mummsie]

no they are different.  I have a feeling the Military Two Step is an EOT dance - I seem to remember doing it when I was doing my EOT medals in the mists of time.  mummsie

[QPO]

Anyone heard anything about  changes to NV dances...if they will add or delete....