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cornutt
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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Reply #15 on:
June 10, 2009, 08:10:25 PM »
Words of wisdom, just received from Steven Doherty: "Pretty feet are not a part of tango!"
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TangoDancer
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 11, 2009, 12:09:36 AM »
Quote from: elisedance on June 10, 2009, 06:43:48 AM
love it - perhaps the simplest example then is the extension of the leg in any walk (forward or back)...
Yes, but don't forget that it really has more to do with energies than physicalities.
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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Reply #17 on:
June 20, 2009, 04:13:44 AM »
yes... but is that how you learn it? surely faking the action is a great way to start feeling the energy
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emeralddancer
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 21, 2009, 02:49:20 AM »
well I have sorta figured out while the weight is transfered between the middle of the action but then weight shifts over the standing leg at the time. yes? the move is very deliberate? to finish the action. all action in legs none above the torso?
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catsmeow
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 22, 2009, 09:11:45 PM »
Is there an argument saying that there is some rise and fall in tango? I cannot comment on near/far. I dont understand it.
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elisedance
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 23, 2009, 01:44:23 AM »
we have been taught both to compress (which is in effect a lowering) at the beginning of a sequence and to rise by another instructor
Oh, and we have been taught to do neither. But in the actual step I believe there is no rise and fall.
I think TD describes the near/far thing pretty well previously - did that not make sense?
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Dora-Satya Veda
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 23, 2009, 11:43:06 PM »
I was always taught by
all my teachers
that there is a form of rise and fall in Tango but it is not in the legs or by dividing the feet. It is done through the ribcage and center.
Just my 2 cents worth....
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SwingWaltz
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 24, 2009, 01:40:40 AM »
Quote from: Dora-Satya Veda on June 23, 2009, 11:43:06 PM
I was always taught by
all my teachers
that there is a form of rise and fall in Tango but it is not in the legs or by dividing the feet. It is done through the ribcage and center.
Just my 2 cents worth....
Dora-Satya Veda
Agree!
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elisedance
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 24, 2009, 04:14:06 AM »
seems there is a deeper level to everything in ballroom
Can you give us the timing of the body rise and fall?
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catsmeow
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 24, 2009, 09:36:44 PM »
interesting to see that tango has or might have rise and fall. when I watch it done live I see it when the man's feet close (slight body rise). perhaps a form of lead?
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cornutt
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 24, 2009, 09:50:48 PM »
Quote from: Dora-Satya Veda on June 23, 2009, 11:43:06 PM
I was always taught by
all my teachers
that there is a form of rise and fall in Tango but it is not in the legs or by dividing the feet. It is done through the ribcage and center.
How do you fall in the ribcage, and still maintain an upright torso?
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Dora-Satya Veda
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 24, 2009, 09:52:04 PM »
Quote from: catsmeow on June 24, 2009, 09:36:44 PM
interesting to see that tango has or might have rise and fall. when I watch it done live I see it when the man's feet close (slight body rise). perhaps a form of lead?
Yes, the rise indicates to the lady that he is stopping the movement. The fall tells her to move.
Dora-Satya Veda
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Dora-Satya Veda
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 24, 2009, 09:57:02 PM »
Quote from: cornutt on June 24, 2009, 09:50:48 PM
Quote from: Dora-Satya Veda on June 23, 2009, 11:43:06 PM
I was always taught by
all my teachers
that there is a form of rise and fall in Tango but it is not in the legs or by dividing the feet. It is done through the ribcage and center.
How do you fall in the ribcage, and still maintain an upright torso?
Just now, I was trying to find a way to say this simple and in a clean manner. I think the only way to explain it is in the other topic (you know which one).
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cornutt
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 24, 2009, 10:26:21 PM »
Ah, I'll go look over there. Looking forward to it.
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Rugby
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Re: Tango (ballroom)
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June 25, 2009, 02:37:10 AM »
Quote from: catsmeow on June 24, 2009, 09:36:44 PM
interesting to see that tango has or might have rise and fall. when I watch it done live I see it when the man's feet close (slight body rise). perhaps a form of lead?
I have seen Mirko G. do this and talk about it a bit.
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