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phoenix13
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« on: May 18, 2013, 10:06:40 AM »

A lot of college teams simply don't have the resources to pay for regular, professional coaching. As a result,many teams use more experienced team members as peer teachers/coaches of beginner team members, thereby saving lots of cash while providing instruction for newer members of the teams.

Have you experienced this?  Or, even if not, what do you think are possible pros ad cons of such a set-up?  Ar there other alternatives for getting effective instruction for college teams?
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2013, 10:48:38 PM »

Yes, I "grew up" with such system. Well, a bit of a hybrid, I guess.

One of the main benefits is of course the money. Student instructors are far cheaper. Also, the student instructor could teach some "mundane work" (such as routines/steps, basic techniques) so that when the pro comes, s/he could work on the more important issues instead of using the precious time to teach steps. Ideally, we would like to have pros at our side for all lessons, and practices. But seriously, it is really quite a waste of pros' time.

And if you are fortunate enough to have a high level student instructor (let's say prechamp, champ level), then one could learn a lot of things. I was fortunate to experience such group lessons. The instructor was a prechamp latin dancer. While she is an Asian (American), she taught the class in the "Russian style": which involves lots of yelling, shouting, pushing, drills, and sweat Wink. I improved so much during that semester/year and I am very grateful for those "boot camps". I think some pushing really helps us to get better faster.

Of course, there is always the fear that the instructor could teach something wrong. But since they basically only teach simple things, they can't get all too wrong. I mean, a heel lead is a heel lead. You can't go way too wrong on that.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2013, 03:37:36 AM »

well I believe that Arthur Murray principle was that the teacher was not that far ahead of the student. I believe the best thing you can do for a beginner is give them the road map, which is what often the associate coach does. When they student has progressed then move them on to someone more advanced. It can save people a lot of money  and the more experienced coach can spend their time better is finessing/grooming the next level dancer.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2014, 07:29:01 PM »

I think that usually its near disasterous.  Lessons from someone that can not really dance can set you back rather than put you forward - and may well be harmful to your body.  The whole point of dancesport is that it mazimizes what two people can do together dancing while minimizing risk. 

If I were starting again and knew what I do now I would not go ANYWHERE NEAR such incompetent coaches.  Why do that when for a few dollars more you can get real training from real pros.

Sorry, my bit...
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2014, 09:51:27 PM »

I dont necessary support the Arthur Murray philosophy but in Dance-sport we have an Associate Coach who works under the guidance of a professional. To be an associate coach you  have to do tests in the three styles on offer in Australia. I would not support someone who has no dance training at all . But to be taught by the associate teacher will give a lower cost for someone coming into dancing. Bad habits should not take a lifetime to leave the brain with clear instructions.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2014, 11:29:30 AM »

If I was starting now I'd pay premium for the best teacher I could afford.  The biggest mistake in ANY activity is to think that the basic elements are the most easily taught - in fact it is always the opposite.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2014, 12:46:15 AM »

If I was starting now I'd pay premium for the best teacher I could afford.  The biggest mistake in ANY activity is to think that the basic elements are the most easily taught - in fact it is always the opposite.

yes but that thinking is with hindsight.....which always helps. but research is good and ask questions from others.
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2014, 05:23:42 AM »

If I was starting now I'd pay premium for the best teacher I could afford.  The biggest mistake in ANY activity is to think that the basic elements are the most easily taught - in fact it is always the opposite.

yes but that thinking is with hindsight.....which always helps. but research is good and ask questions from others.
Perhaps one person will read this and save themselves a LOT of wasted time and money Smiley
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