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« on: March 10, 2012, 04:03:38 AM »

I was wondering what others pay for a pro-am showcase?  In my case its a social event - I am having a birthday party and thought of doing a short showcase - just two dances for 2 minutes each.  Anyone have a cost on that? 
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 08:06:58 PM »

I would not put a value on "2 minutes" each...or devalue a 'showcase'...... It will take the pro time to choreograph ---time out of his day (or night).
Afterall, it is his profession. What is the going rate in your area?
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 08:36:38 PM »

I would not put a value on "2 minutes" each...or devalue a 'showcase'...... It will take the pro time to choreograph ---time out of his day (or night).
Afterall, it is his profession. What is the going rate in your area?

I've no idea what the 'going' rate is but have had quotes ranging from $200 to $800 for the showcase itself - plus of course all the lessons necessary to learn the routine etc.

I did not mean to devalue at all - I value it very highly, after all I'm dancing!!  Perhaps I didn't make that clear...  But the price must be related to the length - I would guess there is a 'event' fee plus a fee depending on how many dances and how long they are. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 12:53:57 AM »

I would not put a value on "2 minutes" each...or devalue a 'showcase'...... It will take the pro time to choreograph ---time out of his day (or night).
Afterall, it is his profession. What is the going rate in your area?

I've no idea what the 'going' rate is but have had quotes ranging from $200 to $800 for the showcase itself - plus of course all the lessons necessary to learn the routine etc.

I did not mean to devalue at all - I value it very highly, after all I'm dancing!!  Perhaps I didn't make that clear...  But the price must be related to the length - I would guess there is a 'event' fee plus a fee depending on how many dances and how long they are. 
I know amateurs in my neck of the woods charge about $200 per number.  So I'm sure Pros charge more than that.  So Pro Am would probably fall around the same amount or more. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 02:52:40 AM »

I would not put a value on "2 minutes" each...or devalue a 'showcase'...... It will take the pro time to choreograph ---time out of his day (or night).
Afterall, it is his profession. What is the going rate in your area?

I've no idea what the 'going' rate is but have had quotes ranging from $200 to $800 for the showcase itself - plus of course all the lessons necessary to learn the routine etc.

I did not mean to devalue at all - I value it very highly, after all I'm dancing!!  Perhaps I didn't make that clear...  But the price must be related to the length - I would guess there is a 'event' fee plus a fee depending on how many dances and how long they are. 
I know amateurs in my neck of the woods charge about $200 per number.  So I'm sure Pros charge more than that.  So Pro Am would probably fall around the same amount or more. 
Amateurs can get paid to do showcases?  I'm having a hard time figuring out what an AM is....
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 10:56:22 AM »

Amateurs can get paid to do showcases?  I'm having a hard time figuring out what an AM is....
They get paid plenty... they always have.
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 10:36:28 PM »

I have heard that it is $100 a dance for amateurs dancers and $200 for Pros but that is just what I have heard around.
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2012, 08:24:53 AM »

I have heard that it is $100 a dance for amateurs dancers and $200 for Pros but that is just what I have heard around.
And $500 for a pro-AM Undecided Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2012, 12:19:32 PM »

Makes perfect sense to me.  Pro-Am's Ams have way more expenses than a pro or am couple.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2012, 01:15:11 PM »

Makes perfect sense to me.  Pro-Am's Ams have way more expenses than a pro or am couple.
I thought that was a bit weird when I read it but I guess I have not been clear about who is charging and who paying!

What I was referring to originally was a pro-am who wants to do a showcase with a pro - what does the latter charge?
The other question is what does a client charge to host a showcase.  Now that is very interesting. 

Here the pro couple charges a fee ranging from 100-2,000 (and up).  Technically the AM coupld can not charge - but I've since heard that its OK for moderate amounts.  I think the pro-am GETs charged by the pro and the latter would ALSO take the studio fee.  I don't think a pro-am is permitted to get any money except schollarship wins (which are (invariably?) less than entry costs anyway).
 
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 03:36:28 AM »

I have heard that it is $100 a dance for amateurs dancers and $200 for Pros but that is just what I have heard around.
And $500 for a pro-AM Undecided Tongue

Or you can think $300.00 ($200/$100).
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 03:42:44 AM »

If you are paying the Pro to do a showcase with you I suppose you can think of how much youu would pay if you competed.  If you paid him $100 a dance plus expenses at a comp then the demo would be the same since you are basically doing the same thing but just not being judged.  You could charge people to watch the showcase to cover the costs having the Pro incurs.
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 06:05:01 AM »

If you are paying the Pro to do a showcase with you I suppose you can think of how much youu would pay if you competed.  If you paid him $100 a dance plus expenses at a comp then the demo would be the same since you are basically doing the same thing but just not being judged.  You could charge people to watch the showcase to cover the costs having the Pro incurs.
Isn't that all wrong though?  You should not have to pay the pro for your own effort!  What is this about the normalcy of screwing pro-ams?  If two pros get 200 for a showcase why should one pro get 300 for the same effort?
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 10:27:53 PM »

If Pros want $200.00 per dance and Am's are given $100.00 due to being an Am then it would work out to $300 a dance.  I don't think the Pro should get paid and the Am not for sure. I think you should get $100.00.  Since it is for yourself and you are going to be staying with this Pro, plus it is not a competition where he has to go through all the hassle of a long day at a comp then I think it fair that he gets $100 per dance.  He has to get something to make it worth his while but he doesn't need to gouge you either.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2012, 02:29:37 AM »

Obviously I'm still not explaining the circumstances!  But lets just focus on the net pay to the pro: is $600 reasonable for two 2 minute dances?
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