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« Reply #1005 on: September 03, 2014, 08:35:09 AM »

I wonder if there should be open marking and that might make them think twice about what they are doing.
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« Reply #1006 on: September 09, 2014, 03:24:53 AM »

I think some of the judges need to explain their marks.  It should be interesting.   
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« Reply #1007 on: September 09, 2014, 07:32:37 AM »

I think some of the judges need to explain their marks.  It should be interesting.   
yes, but we have to be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater.  A judge may just call it as they see it - and that call may correspond to the students they have taught.  Indeed, there is that likelihood since those students are dancing as the judge thinks is correct.

There is not always corruption just be cause the scores follow a possibly predicted pattern.
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« Reply #1008 on: September 09, 2014, 02:25:38 PM »

I agree.  I was just talking about this with some people.  They wondered how the same top couples would get different placings at different comps.  I was saying that it was not always due to politics but rather what the individual judges thought were most important in a dancer.  If you have a technique first judge then he will forgive lack of presentation over better technique.  If you have a judge that likes presentation or is swayed by it then they will judge the couples with stronger presentation over technique.  I have talked to darn near all the judges in Ontario and some from Quebec and got to know what they preferred.  During the competition I could almost tell who was going to get what and it would also very much answer some of the reasons why the marks could be so far apart or so different depending on the judging panel.  I remember that if we had a strong "Presentation" panel we would make that a focus at the comp. 
Now that I am around the judges a lot I have gotten to learn why they mark down particular couples and why they put up others.  I would say the majority of times it was not political or some such thing but due to a personal preferance.  Other times a couple was marked down because they had moved up to the next level but did not in time show improvement on something such as still taking heel leads where it should be toe.     
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« Reply #1009 on: September 09, 2014, 10:02:40 PM »

Nice to hear an 'insider' view.  I really think that most people are honest and are trying to do their best.  But they are also human with the same foibles.  A really corrupt judge is very rare.
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