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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2011, 05:15:44 AM »

well I think it is like any service you use. It is up to you to ask the questions to find out how qualified the person is....
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2011, 06:43:26 AM »

well I think it is like any service you use. It is up to you to ask the questions to find out how qualified the person is....

So what if the person came from a far away land with top ballroom and says they are brilliant?  There is no resource to go to to test that...
Is that what you would want to rely on for dentistry too?
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2011, 06:57:26 AM »

as an autodidact; i am both the worst and best teacher I know.....
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2011, 01:53:55 PM »

The best teachers are generally those that doubt their own excellence in their field...
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2011, 05:24:04 PM »

well I think it is like any service you use. It is up to you to ask the questions to find out how qualified the person is....

So what if the person came from a far away land with top ballroom and says they are brilliant?  There is no resource to go to to test that...
Is that what you would want to rely on for dentistry too?

People usually want pretty much the same thing from their dentist. They have different goals in mind regarding dancing.
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2011, 10:18:16 PM »

well I think it is like any service you use. It is up to you to ask the questions to find out how qualified the person is....

So what if the person came from a far away land with top ballroom and says they are brilliant?  There is no resource to go to to test that...
Is that what you would want to rely on for dentistry too?

People usually want pretty much the same thing from their dentist. They have different goals in mind regarding dancing.

for good or bad Dancing is not as regulated as Dentistry...there are many more checks and balances in place but if enough people are being damaged by poor teaching who knows if they make it more rigorous.
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2011, 10:42:21 PM »

well I think it is like any service you use. It is up to you to ask the questions to find out how qualified the person is....

So what if the person came from a far away land with top ballroom and says they are brilliant?  There is no resource to go to to test that...
Is that what you would want to rely on for dentistry too?

People usually want pretty much the same thing from their dentist. They have different goals in mind regarding dancing.

for good or bad Dancing is not as regulated as Dentistry...there are many more checks and balances in place but if enough people are being damaged by poor teaching who knows if they make it more rigorous.

I think it varies depending on where you are.  We're in the free market for everything zone - so no regs but I think there are quite strict rules in England (maybe someone can correct me).
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2013, 08:15:36 PM »

I think that the divide between student level and teacher level broadens as the student progresses. Meaning, for example, a beginner can easily learn everything that is needed from a bronze or silver level teacher.  But a high-level competitor may very well need a world champion level teacher.


I think that the whole pricing question is a separate and very complex issue. 
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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2013, 10:30:49 PM »

I think everyone wants a world champion from the get go - but they are likely to be poor introductory dance teachers.  It really is a specialty
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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2013, 06:00:56 AM »

I agree.  I think that often, by the time you get to world champion level, the elementary concepts are like breathing.  How exactly do you teach someone to breathe?  I think it takes a special type of higher level dancer to remember  and explain the component parts of how to take a dance "breath."
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2013, 06:00:29 AM »

remember that Arthur Murray have their teachers not too many steps ahead of the student. Not sure why that philosophy came about. But I enjoy assisting beginners to they learn to love dancing and come back for more.
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2013, 02:25:46 PM »

remember that Arthur Murray have their teachers not too many steps ahead of the student. Not sure why that philosophy came about. But I enjoy assisting beginners to they learn to love dancing and come back for more.
the 'philosophy' is a no brainer - it means they can use untrained (and hence cheap) teachers to get high lesson fees. 
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« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2013, 03:00:36 AM »

remember that Arthur Murray have their teachers not too many steps ahead of the student. Not sure why that philosophy came about. But I enjoy assisting beginners to they learn to love dancing and come back for more.
the 'philosophy' is a no brainer - it means they can use untrained (and hence cheap) teachers to get high lesson fees. 

yes I can see that but surely the business model would fall over for those that really want to learn more.  But it has worked for them for a long time, here they work out quickly going to another school will be a cheaper option for them. I know a girl from the AM has started her own school and she wont let her dancers participate in our comps for that very reason.
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« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2013, 03:40:35 AM »

remember that Arthur Murray have their teachers not too many steps ahead of the student. Not sure why that philosophy came about. But I enjoy assisting beginners to they learn to love dancing and come back for more.
the 'philosophy' is a no brainer - it means they can use untrained (and hence cheap) teachers to get high lesson fees. 

yes I can see that but surely the business model would fall over for those that really want to learn more.  But it has worked for them for a long time, here they work out quickly going to another school will be a cheaper option for them. I know a girl from the AM has started her own school and she wont let her dancers participate in our comps for that very reason.
It works because they teach total novices who have no reason to think that lessons could be any other way.  After all, these franchises are long standing and famous.  There is another side though: what they are good at is providing a safe harbour for people who want to try dancing for the first time - and its comprehensive, not only lessons but also practise times and lots of socializing. 
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