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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2011, 03:56:25 AM »

I agree, change is not easy.  After the change 'though, it becomes really easy.  That's what I meant.
I got it and agree with you entirely! Grin
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« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2011, 11:31:47 AM »

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For example, we've discussed extensively here how bad it is to 'bend to move' vs 'move to bend' but many dancers who learn the former (which can be harmful to your body) simply can not switch to the former.

Maybe some dancers wouldn't care to switch. I think I see a number of top std dancers using "bend to move" technique. Perhaps they know how to do so without bad effects and it's an artistic choice on their part. :-)
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« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2011, 11:58:18 AM »

After the change 'though, it becomes really easy.  That's what I meant.

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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2011, 11:59:36 AM »

Maybe some dancers wouldn't care to switch. I think I see a number of top std dancers using "bend to move" technique. Perhaps they know how to do so without bad effects and it's an artistic choice on their part. :-)
It's possible.
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« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2011, 12:21:45 PM »

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For example, we've discussed extensively here how bad it is to 'bend to move' vs 'move to bend' but many dancers who learn the former (which can be harmful to your body) simply can not switch to the former.

Maybe some dancers wouldn't care to switch. I think I see a number of top std dancers using "bend to move" technique. Perhaps they know how to do so without bad effects and it's an artistic choice on their part. :-)

Could be.  I suppose what we need is a survey to compare the duration of dance careers with different dance methods.  hard to do but it might save a lot of knees...
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« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2011, 01:19:57 PM »

Could be.  I suppose what we need is a survey to compare the duration of dance careers with different dance methods.  hard to do but it might save a lot of knees...

Don't know if you'd be able to get a survey, but I think most top pro dancers using either technique have been doing so for 20 years or longer. It would be interesting if could get opinions of different pros on this subject. I know and respect DSV's opinion on this. :-)
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« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2011, 01:24:55 PM »

Could be.  I suppose what we need is a survey to compare the duration of dance careers with different dance methods.  hard to do but it might save a lot of knees...

Don't know if you'd be able to get a survey, but I think most top pro dancers using either technique have been doing so for 20 years or longer. It would be interesting if could get opinions of different pros on this subject. I know and respect DSV's opinion on this. :-)
Thats a good point on the 20+ year pros!  Its probably also important to look at what they really do, rather than what they say they do.  The difference between the two is rather subtle and a lower to move could include a bit of move to lower.
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« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2011, 03:19:53 PM »

Thats a good point on the 20+ year pros!  Its probably also important to look at what they really do, rather than what they say they do.  The difference between the two is rather subtle and a lower to move could include a bit of move to lower.

Yeah, after reading these posts I relooked at some video of A + K from last year's OSB and looked to me like doing a bit of both. I ran video in slow motion so can see better what's going on. Seems like using one or other technique depending upon step. At least that's what I thought. :-)
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« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2011, 04:08:12 PM »


Its probably also important to look at what they really do, rather than what they say they do.  The difference between the two is rather subtle and a lower to move could include a bit of move to lower.
That's an incredibly good point you make Elise.
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« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2012, 05:38:33 AM »

You don't think about how to press the pedal or turn the wheel when you drive a car anymore do you?  But I bet you did when you were learning....

ITS FUnny you should say that but my driving home after dancing last night was more flowing....I wanted to go round bends with the same grace as i was dancing....
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« Reply #55 on: July 24, 2013, 08:39:08 PM »

Great topic.

I think that dance is a lot like math.  You work hard on the building blocks until you get to the point where the building blocks are a part of you and you rarely have to think about them anymore.
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« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2013, 09:05:07 PM »

Great topic.

I think that dance is a lot like math.  You work hard on the building blocks until you get to the point where the building blocks are a part of you and you rarely have to think about them anymore.
You put that well - and its true of any art.  The more you can make technique a natural part of you, the freer and more interesting the art can be.
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