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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2011, 03:19:37 PM »

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I think some people are just better suited to certain styles, everyone faces different difficulties in each.... and which one I think is harder for me to do, depends on which one I'm practicing at the time... Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2011, 03:48:08 PM »

Oh good.  Hate ice cream to feel left out...
And a very good reason for your choice too.
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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2011, 05:58:34 AM »

yes this should also include smooth and New Vogue...which have their difficulties...so I say it is a four way tie!
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2011, 06:34:49 AM »

yes this should also include smooth and New Vogue...which have their difficulties...so I say it is a four way tie!
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2011, 08:04:29 PM »

Well, they both have difficult elements.  However, Standard is a slogging chore for very little payoff.  So I pick Standard.  I'd rather dig ditches.  At least with Latin even if I bomb the competitions over and over again I like the music.
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2011, 09:03:27 PM »

Well, they both have difficult elements.  However, Standard is a slogging chore for very little payoff.  So I pick Standard.  I'd rather dig ditches.  At least with Latin even if I bomb the competitions over and over again I like the music.

Grin  Why don't we do 10 dance together?  You can do the 5 latins and I'll take on the standards... kinda like hot-bedding in the army...
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2011, 12:09:18 AM »

I find latin harder, because of the attitude and speed of some of it...

I can cha cha, rumba, and samba. Jive and paso are beyond me...
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2011, 02:32:02 AM »

I wonder if you can characterize everyone as either a latin or standard 'person'.  Also, I wonder if height is a factor - that most tall people tend to standard and short ones latin (though I know that is hardly predictive).  There is a practical issue there: standard is favoured by progressive movement whereas  latin is more fast - big people can take longer strides and short ones can simply move their lmbs faster.

Seems it is very rare to find a couple at least that is equally good at both even at the championship level ...
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2011, 02:33:10 AM »

On that note its interesting that the voting is very even!
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2011, 11:18:10 AM »

... that most tall people tend to standard and short ones latin (though I know that is hardly predictive).  There is a practical issue there: standard is favoured by progressive movement whereas  latin is more fast - big people can take longer strides and short ones can simply move their lmbs faster.
Not sure if I agree.  The European Standard couples are much smaller than I envisioned (they look tall on Youtube) and the Latin couples are either the same size or bigger.  Bryan Watson used to be a giant among the crowd.  Skufca, Slavik, and Sergei (pro Latin) are taller than any of the Amateur Standard finalist.   In the Pro Standard Final, apart from Arunas, are there many tall Standard folks?  I can't think of all of them, but Victor not a big guy, nor is Domenico or Mirko.  Mathew Cutler (pro Latin) used to be very tall. 

So I don't think the height issue is a factor anymore in determining if one goes into Latin or Standard.   
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2011, 11:31:05 AM »

I KNOW the question is  - "Which is harder, standard or latin?".  Has anyone considered the fact that smooth requires you to dance both at the same time?

But answer the original question ---standard is harder!
Very true about smooth. I find it harder than standard because of all the work outside of closed hold. And I definitely find latin harder than standard. Not only because of open hold, but also because of the speed. Even when I just started over 10 years ago and was doing smooth and rhythm on a very low level, I was more comfortable about smooth (at that point you don't get out of the hold that much for smooth, except for occasional underarm turn) because of the speed issue. Although, arguably, for someone without a partner, there is more you can do on your own in latin. There are times when I think that maybe I should have thought about it before I more or less specialized in standard and smooth.
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2011, 02:13:47 PM »

I think it is easier to quickly "look" good in latin, espescially if you have danced before & already have the ability to spin etc etc  Because top level latin has so much freedom, a lot of dance knowledge can be transferred.  Doesn't make acquisition of correct technique easier but it is easier to cover up lack of.  Having a fantastic top line & look in ballroom isn't as easy to acquire or cover up the lack of.  Learning to dance in hold & trust your partner also takes time.  I go through phases of finding both easier.  I think over all the nitty gritty of ballroom is more challenging & finding that place were you are able to consistently maintain a fab topline & good technique whilst moving as one in hold is the never ending challenge.  The challenge in latin is that I am getting to the stage where my hips might never move :-(
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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2011, 05:14:54 PM »

I wonder if you can characterize everyone as either a latin or standard 'person'.  Also, I wonder if height is a factor - that most tall people tend to standard and short ones latin (though I know that is hardly predictive).  There is a practical issue there: standard is favoured by progressive movement whereas  latin is more fast - big people can take longer strides and short ones can simply move their lmbs faster.

Seems it is very rare to find a couple at least that is equally good at both even at the championship level ...

My partner thinks that I am a standard person, ask her...

I think both tall and short has its own adv and disadv. As you mentioned, the size of stride vs. easy to move oneself. However, IMHO, while the taller people has a disadvantage at first (due to the fact that they couldn't really move as quickly, more intertia to move around) - on the long run, they would have more advantage when they learn how to use their own body. I mean, if you are say, as a guy, 6 feet. Just by standing there, you are more visible, and being larger is easier to "take up the space/claim the space." And that is a huge advantage. A tall person doesn't even need to move so large to be visible, whereas shorter couples, unfortunately, need to go lower - to use movement, hip to create a bigger image (at least that is my hope - since I am tall, and a bit uncoordinated...).

I guess there is also a sense of using your body as a advantage. If I have been short, I would use a lot of spins, swing/sway, shaping, movement to create visibility. If I am tall, I would compete directly in those areas. I would use the advantage of my own body to create larger line, taking larger space. And move larger, etc.

Also, movement is still important in Latin. ;-).

p.s. It seems that the ice cream is on the loosing end! NOOOOOOO!  Tongue Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2011, 07:31:42 AM »

definitely Latin... at the moment... with my missing cartilage and backward locks are very tricky. but I hope in time this will improve. I do love doing Latin, but not competitively.
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« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2011, 08:17:03 AM »

definitely Latin... at the moment... with my missing cartilage and backward locks are very tricky. but I hope in time this will improve. I do love doing Latin, but not competitively.

You might want to talk to a specialist to see if latin is a good idea with your particular knee injury.  Just to be safe...
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