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« on: December 10, 2010, 01:10:38 PM »

This hasn't been changed in years... how about this as an improvement:

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2010, 01:14:41 AM »

Unsure what it's supposed to be notating...

With the low semiquaver and then the high one...I would just group it slightly differently. One quaver by itself, and then the two semi quavers joined.

If the blue lines are intentional...are they used to mark the Cs? That could be useful for really high or low music...say, for flute.
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2010, 05:27:23 AM »

If the blue lines are intentional...are they used to mark the Cs? That could be useful for really high or low music...say, for flute.

Thats the point.  Why on earth isn't that automatic?  We violinists are always playing in whats been delightfully termed 'the gerbil zone' why does it have to be so hard to read?
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2010, 10:41:07 AM »

True...I guess after a while I just got used to it. High notes became easier to read.

If we get too complicated, we'll start having a viola clef for every instrument...
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2010, 04:46:14 PM »

... or 15 lines and a Giant Clef...
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 10:29:20 PM »

Sequencing software uses something called "piano roll" notation.  I'll post an example later.
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2011, 12:26:07 AM »

What's the relative disadvantage of using 8va, 8vb, 15ma, 15mb (1 octave higher, lower, 2 octaves higher, lower)? Does it make sight-reading slower?
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2011, 04:48:43 AM »

What's the relative disadvantage of using 8va, 8vb, 15ma, 15mb (1 octave higher, lower, 2 octaves higher, lower)? Does it make sight-reading slower?

I think this works fine for the piano where all you do is move up or down the keyboard and carry on playing Smiley  However, for the violin playing the fingereing for a 'G' in one octave is completely different (different string, different position on the string).  Thus, you basically have to transpose the music in your head.  We need as many clues as we can get Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2011, 06:33:38 AM »

What's the relative disadvantage of using 8va, 8vb, 15ma, 15mb (1 octave higher, lower, 2 octaves higher, lower)? Does it make sight-reading slower?

Well, for piano music, there isn't really a disadvantage in actually playing it.

However, it can make sightreading trickier, because the 8va, 8vb, etc are often small and easy to miss.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 06:15:00 PM »

I like it Elise.  However, I wonder why folks haven't changed music notations in lord knows how long.
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 08:58:22 PM »

I like it Elise.  However, I wonder why folks haven't changed music notations in lord knows how long.
cause classical musicians are trained to copy, not innovate.  Or should I say innotevate...
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 04:52:38 AM »

If the blue lines are intentional...are they used to mark the Cs? That could be useful for really high or low music...say, for flute.

Thats the point.  Why on earth isn't that automatic?  We violinists are always playing in whats been delightfully termed 'the gerbil zone' why does it have to be so hard to read?
is that like the twighlight zone but an octave higher?

what is the gerbil zone?
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 09:09:15 AM »

If the blue lines are intentional...are they used to mark the Cs? That could be useful for really high or low music...say, for flute.

Thats the point.  Why on earth isn't that automatic?  We violinists are always playing in whats been delightfully termed 'the gerbil zone' why does it have to be so hard to read?
is that like the twighlight zone but an octave higher?
definitely music in the aural twilight zone - or maybe up to the crescent moon...

what is the gerbil zone?

Its when you are playing notes so high on the violin finger board that you don't actually know where you are... its really done by ear and the position of one note relative to the one you just played....
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 09:09:50 AM »

Perhaps the name comes from the squeaky notes a gerbil can make...
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2011, 01:32:54 PM »

Perhaps the name comes from the squeaky notes a gerbil can make...

so what animal is this..(veriy interesting series on tango rechnique for violin)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNtmKON3I0s&feature=related

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