improving music notation...

[elisedance]

This hasn't been changed in years... how about this as an improvement:

[Lioness]

Unsure what it's supposed to be notating...

With the low semiquaver and then the high one...I would just group it slightly differently. One quaver by itself, and then the two semi quavers joined.

If the blue lines are intentional...are they used to mark the Cs? That could be useful for really high or low music...say, for flute.

[elisedance]

If the blue lines are intentional...are they used to mark the Cs? That could be useful for really high or low music...say, for flute.

Thats the point.  Why on earth isn't that automatic?  We violinists are always playing in whats been delightfully termed 'the gerbil zone' why does it have to be so hard to read?

[Lioness]

True...I guess after a while I just got used to it. High notes became easier to read.

If we get too complicated, we'll start having a viola clef for every instrument...

[elisedance]

... or 15 lines and a Giant Clef...

[cornutt]

Sequencing software uses something called "piano roll" notation.  I'll post an example later.

[NZ_Guy]

What's the relative disadvantage of using 8va, 8vb, 15ma, 15mb (1 octave higher, lower, 2 octaves higher, lower)? Does it make sight-reading slower?

[elisedance]

What's the relative disadvantage of using 8va, 8vb, 15ma, 15mb (1 octave higher, lower, 2 octaves higher, lower)? Does it make sight-reading slower?

I think this works fine for the piano where all you do is move up or down the keyboard and carry on playing   However, for the violin playing the fingereing for a 'G' in one octave is completely different (different string, different position on the string).  Thus, you basically have to transpose the music in your head.  We need as many clues as we can get

[Lioness]

What's the relative disadvantage of using 8va, 8vb, 15ma, 15mb (1 octave higher, lower, 2 octaves higher, lower)? Does it make sight-reading slower?

Well, for piano music, there isn't really a disadvantage in actually playing it.

However, it can make sightreading trickier, because the 8va, 8vb, etc are often small and easy to miss.

[Some guy]

I like it Elise.  However, I wonder why folks haven't changed music notations in lord knows how long.

[elisedance]

I like it Elise.  However, I wonder why folks haven't changed music notations in lord knows how long.

cause classical musicians are trained to copy, not innovate.  Or should I say innotevate...
oh, dear ...

[Bordertangoman]

If the blue lines are intentional...are they used to mark the Cs? That could be useful for really high or low music...say, for flute.

Thats the point.  Why on earth isn't that automatic?  We violinists are always playing in whats been delightfully termed 'the gerbil zone' why does it have to be so hard to read?

is that like the twighlight zone but an octave higher?

what is the gerbil zone?

[elisedance]

If the blue lines are intentional...are they used to mark the Cs? That could be useful for really high or low music...say, for flute.

Thats the point.  Why on earth isn't that automatic?  We violinists are always playing in whats been delightfully termed 'the gerbil zone' why does it have to be so hard to read?

is that like the twighlight zone but an octave higher?

definitely music in the aural twilight zone - or maybe up to the crescent moon...

what is the gerbil zone?

Its when you are playing notes so high on the violin finger board that you don't actually know where you are... its really done by ear and the position of one note relative to the one you just played....

[elisedance]

Perhaps the name comes from the squeaky notes a gerbil can make...

[Bordertangoman]

Perhaps the name comes from the squeaky notes a gerbil can make...

so what animal is this..(veriy interesting series on tango rechnique for violin)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNtmKON3I0s&feature=related

(Jeremy Cohen)