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« on: September 25, 2010, 10:13:19 PM »

I want to talk about the first set of dances that we do at the competition on a given day. I usually don't do as well on my first set. Maybe it is too much adrenaline, but I overdo things and/or I go too fast (which causes me to become disconnected and then other mistakes start to happen), and then after I get that out of the system, things go better until I get tired.  Getting tired is not as much of an issue anymore, since I usually dance 2 sets of single dances plus one or two multi-dance events, and I have enough endurance, even if I have a minimal break between the sets. Now, for the single dances, I usually look at them as my warm up for the multi-dances, but I definitely noticed that my first set doesn't feel as good all subsequent ones and I don't place as well in it. But this issue - dancing worse in the first set, and then having things get better as I go - I feel like it's going bite me in the butt eventually. I've already noticed that I do better in the scholarship if I didn't have a huge break before it (like it was in the evening session). Or for example, that standard multidance I do at OSB - it's on different day from single dances and so I don't have the luxury of having a throwaway first set, I have to dance my best in the first round or I won't make the next cut. It's not so much the warm-up issue, that's something about going out there and actually dancing in front of the judges and the audience. Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2010, 10:40:29 PM »

I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way too! I certainly do, my first set is always my worst.

Depending on the competition, whether it's fight or die from round 1 or you can cruise through a couple of rounds before the business end comes in. I usually cruise through the first couple of rounds and put the pedal on the medal at semi-final and finals, just that I know the field well enough to be confident I can get away with it. But if you have to fight from the first round, I suggest lots and lots of warm up. Not the type of warm up where you strectch your leg and arms, but get really physical....you know how you feel exhausted after a couple of rounds, but always recover very quickly and the next rounds feel better because your muscles are relaxed? I would get to the stage that I am sweating with my warm up, and give a couple of minutes break and I'm good to go on the floor. I guess this depends on the individual person, how fast they recover etc. The point is, you want to feel like you've already danced a couple of rounds by doing warm up if your first round is bad. Just my 2 cents, but then again as I said, I don't really bother with first rounds anymore cause I cruise through them
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2010, 11:28:20 PM »

the first set I agree is always the worst for the day, and as you say rightly I do believe that it is the adrenalin that runs throgh your body. What I do now is eat a chocolate bar before I go on the floor, it seems to settle that.

but you are right once the first one is out of the way things settle down and I get on with it. I would prefer to get my New vouge out the way first. seems to work better for us.
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2010, 12:12:57 AM »

Same here.  We are rapidly approaching the time when there will only be one set (in championship; we also do pre-champ now) and I don't know what we will have to do to get over the first-set blues or how some dancers seem to hit it from the first moment - pro finals for example.

OTOH at these levels there are usually heats so you can, I suppose, use the first heat as your first set - and hope that you get through!

Its obviously related to performance anxiety.  I have heard the suggestion that you should practise before the first set until you are as tired as if you really had done one.  Apparently that can help.

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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2010, 12:22:00 PM »

the first set I agree is always the worst for the day, and as you say rightly I do believe that it is the adrenalin that runs throgh your body. What I do now is eat a chocolate bar before I go on the floor, it seems to settle that.

but you are right once the first one is out of the way things settle down and I get on with it. I would prefer to get my New vouge out the way first. seems to work better for us.

How does a chocolate help with adrenaline?
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2010, 10:30:29 PM »

Redwine does!

Don't drink beer, it gives you the burps, not a good look on the floor.  Shocked
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 05:15:35 AM »

the first set I agree is always the worst for the day, and as you say rightly I do believe that it is the adrenalin that runs throgh your body. What I do now is eat a chocolate bar before I go on the floor, it seems to settle that.

but you are right once the first one is out of the way things settle down and I get on with it. I would prefer to get my New vouge out the way first. seems to work better for us.

How does a chocolate help with adrenaline?

not sure but it does work. I know that you go into shock they suggest a sugery drink...tried to look things up on the net but have not found the way to resolve an adrenaline rush
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 05:44:46 AM »

Redwine does!

Don't drink beer, it gives you the burps, not a good look on the floor.  Shocked

IMO it makes you THINK you are dancing better... For me it dulls my reflexes which are so essential for responding
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2010, 05:55:53 AM »

yes dont want to drink before dancing...1.. it is a bad habit to start and 2. as EE said it dulls the senses and not a good thing for your dancing.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2010, 06:13:59 AM »

well, it works OK for social dancing sometimes, if everyone is doing it
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2010, 09:43:55 PM »

well, it works OK for social dancing sometimes, if everyone is doing it

true but half the social dancers our way are OLD and dont do it..so us 50 something youngster are just too out of control! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2010, 11:50:55 PM »

And you'd be setting a horrible example to all the under 20s at the dance.
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2010, 12:00:59 AM »

And you'd be setting a horrible example to all the under 20s at the dance.
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2010, 12:02:50 AM »

since I am going to watch dancing this week-end I dont have to worry about the first set.... Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2010, 06:39:27 AM »

And you'd be setting a horrible example to all the under 20s at the dance.
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