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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2010, 09:10:18 PM »

Well... they were very compatible for me.  With DP I got a lot of practise and we have to work through how to actually do steps.  With pro I got to dance at the edge of my abilities (and sometimes over the edge Shocked Smiley ) and lessons were all about me.  But my AM partnership took a very positive turn with a change of attitude that I felt  we were pulling together and I thought we could make some sort of impact in our little world.  Another factor (also important) is money - I have to save a bit now and you know what pro/am is like for emptying the bank Undecided

So here we are.  I don't think its a permanent decision and I intend to keep taking lessons by myself, but I'm leaving it open...
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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2010, 10:20:28 PM »

Perhaps listening to a teacher well versed in basic syllabus steps and strong on presentation is a good step from here. I was told months ago that my frame was wobbling and  refused to pay attention to it until I watched my posture on video.  That camera is one cruel master.
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« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2010, 10:47:42 PM »

Don't I know it.  We are all semi-legends in our own minds until we see ourselves and realize we are far from it.
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« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2010, 01:13:28 AM »

Perhaps listening to a teacher well versed in basic syllabus steps and strong on presentation is a good step from here. I was told months ago that my frame was wobbling and  refused to pay attention to it until I watched my posture on video.  That camera is one cruel master.

yes but sometimes we need to see it on video to understand which part of the frame is not working. or that you are not lowering enough..Learn from it and move on. dont tourture yourself!

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« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2010, 03:24:25 PM »

What this whole experience has done is to make me look much deeper into my dancing to see what else might be up, why in particular we are so variable.  One thing that has changed is that I'm only dancing with DP now so I don't get the weekly kick-into-shape with pro.  I think that means I have to get more disciplined about how I prepare and how I maintain my standards. ...  
How lucky you are to be dancing am/am!! I always think that with pro/am there is a "bail-out", the pro is there to help you.
In am/am, you are "on your own" - the success is ALL yours.
Although I only do pro-am, it is too easy to have a pity party -often wonder about the $$ and effort.

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« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2010, 09:30:28 PM »

Perhaps listening to a teacher well versed in basic syllabus steps and strong on presentation is a good step from here. I was told months ago that my frame was wobbling and  refused to pay attention to it until I watched my posture on video.  That camera is one cruel master.
I have the opposite relationship with the camera. Quite a few times I got off the floor thinking that it didn't go so well, and then I am pleasantly surprised by the video.
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« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2010, 12:44:09 AM »

well we are back to the drawing board....i get down for a short time and then back up again to start anew... Grin
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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2010, 05:54:16 AM »

Perhaps listening to a teacher well versed in basic syllabus steps and strong on presentation is a good step from here. I was told months ago that my frame was wobbling and  refused to pay attention to it until I watched my posture on video.  That camera is one cruel master.
I have the opposite relationship with the camera. Quite a few times I got off the floor thinking that it didn't go so well, and then I am pleasantly surprised by the video.
Lucky you!
Actually, I quite like the videos of me its the photos that look so awful. 
Strange that - I used to be photogenic Sad
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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2010, 06:56:39 AM »

well depends on the angle and what is being filmed I find that the video just don't not necessarily show the effort that we have put into it Undecided
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« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2010, 07:46:02 AM »

well depends on the angle and what is being filmed I find that the video just don't not necessarily show the effort that we have put into it Undecided

Actually, that may be good.  The idea of hte effort I think is to make it look like there is no effort Cheesy  I do know what you mean though - the look as if you are walking around the floor ...

(can't wait till DSV sees that Cheesy )
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« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2010, 11:19:16 AM »

I thought the angle and the timing are even more important for still photos. If they are taken somewhere in the transition, they look weird. I even heard Tony Redpath say something about that in her seminar (she was talking about waltz and said something like "we reach the biggest shape here and hopefully this is when they take the picture").
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« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2010, 12:36:21 PM »

Yes, but really good dancers seem to always look good in their photos - I think you have hit on why photos are so useful because they tend to NOT catch you when you pose.  The aim should be to look good at every moment....
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« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2010, 02:00:08 PM »

Yes, but really good dancers seem to always look good in their photos - I think you have hit on why photos are so useful because they tend to NOT catch you when you pose.  The aim should be to look good at every moment....

That's what actually Tony's point was in that seminar - that if you pause during a transition, it will not necessarily look good. It may actually look downright weird. But because you move through them, it's OK. The photos however, are another story, this is why even if you look at photos from pro events, some of them do not look that great, because they were not taken at the right moment.
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« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2010, 02:20:18 PM »

I've got some friends on Facebook that are top dancers, and trust me, even they find humor in the photos that catch them at just the wrong moment.  I've seen their photos.  Smiley

However, I do agree, the goal is to try and look "normal" throughout the whole movement, kinda like walking. 
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« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2010, 02:53:24 PM »

I've got some friends on Facebook that are top dancers, and trust me, even they find humor in the photos that catch them at just the wrong moment.  I've seen their photos.  Smiley

However, I do agree, the goal is to try and look "normal" throughout the whole movement, kinda like walking. 

Hmm.  Ever watched Quasimodo walk?

Besides, I think I must look weird walking - I'm always trying to improve my posture and probably look like a total stuffed-shirt...
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