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« Reply #90 on: February 21, 2012, 08:35:13 PM »

This is where the Drill of the “Big Foot” is really, really important. When you practice the “Big Foot” you are working on what is called a “none progressive movement”.  When you do “none progressive movement” you are able to “stand still” and still move slow enough for the man to make up his mind and take a step.  The use of the “Big Foot” happens during the Flexibility time for the Lady which is the lowering and down (dividing) time for the man.

The legs should always be in what is called a natural flex for both man and lady no matter whether you are going down (dividing) or going up (rising).

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« Reply #91 on: February 22, 2012, 04:42:42 AM »

thanks DSV - I think my interpretation was kinda right and love the terms!  'big' foot  is very nice, not heavy foot and not slow foot, just a foot that has innertia Smiley
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« Reply #92 on: February 22, 2012, 05:15:04 AM »

i am not sure that we are talking cross purposes...
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« Reply #93 on: February 22, 2012, 05:32:57 AM »

i am not sure that we are talking cross purposes...
how so?  Is this not the type of waiting that you were thinking of - in which case maybe I put it in the wrong place...
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« Reply #94 on: February 22, 2012, 04:00:26 PM »

I think of it as 'active waiting' not 'anchored waiting'.   

bingo... giving "breath" to the movement while still waiting/listening/being-ready-to-respond, and not being held back by resistance, weakness or lack of free-flowing information in the body.

oh, if it were as easy as just saying it. Smiley
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« Reply #95 on: February 22, 2012, 04:01:08 PM »

I think of it as 'active waiting' not 'anchored waiting'.   

bingo... giving "breath" to the movement while still waiting/listening/being-flexible-and-ready-to-respond, and not being held back by resistance, weakness or lack of free-flowing information in the body.

oh, if it were as easy as just saying it. Smiley
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« Reply #96 on: February 22, 2012, 06:03:55 PM »

I think of it as 'active waiting' not 'anchored waiting'.   

bingo... giving "breath" to the movement while still waiting/listening/being-ready-to-respond, and not being held back by resistance, weakness or lack of free-flowing information in the body.

oh, if it were as easy as just saying it. Smiley
well put sam....
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« Reply #97 on: February 22, 2012, 11:08:33 PM »

This is where the Drill of the “Big Foot” is really, really important. When you practice the “Big Foot” you are working on what is called a “none progressive movement”.  When you do “none progressive movement” you are able to “stand still” and still move slow enough for the man to make up his mind and take a step.  The use of the “Big Foot” happens during the Flexibility time for the Lady which is the lowering and down (dividing) time for the man.

The legs should always be in what is called a natural flex for both man and lady no matter whether you are going down (dividing) or going up (rising).

DSV Thanks for the reminder.....knowledge / habit / knowledge / habit.....

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« Reply #98 on: February 23, 2012, 03:55:21 AM »

This is where the Drill of the “Big Foot” is really, really important. When you practice the “Big Foot” you are working on what is called a “none progressive movement”.  When you do “none progressive movement” you are able to “stand still” and still move slow enough for the man to make up his mind and take a step.  The use of the “Big Foot” happens during the Flexibility time for the Lady which is the lowering and down (dividing) time for the man.

The legs should always be in what is called a natural flex for both man and lady no matter whether you are going down (dividing) or going up (rising).



hmm this is where the limitation of words is frustrating..maybe it is the same thing as suspension, and as Samina said the breath is very helpful
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« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2012, 06:40:37 AM »

This is where the Drill of the “Big Foot” is really, really important. When you practice the “Big Foot” you are working on what is called a “none progressive movement”.  When you do “none progressive movement” you are able to “stand still” and still move slow enough for the man to make up his mind and take a step.  The use of the “Big Foot” happens during the Flexibility time for the Lady which is the lowering and down (dividing) time for the man.

The legs should always be in what is called a natural flex for both man and lady no matter whether you are going down (dividing) or going up (rising).



hmm this is where the limitation of words is frustrating..maybe it is the same thing as suspension, and as Samina said the breath is very helpful

Sounds the same - did you have a video showing it for us to compare?
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« Reply #100 on: February 23, 2012, 07:03:01 AM »

no
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« Reply #101 on: February 23, 2012, 07:35:34 AM »

no
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« Reply #102 on: February 23, 2012, 09:33:52 AM »

is it the hesitation here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F3FzCISBSo

this is the only youtube refernce I could find

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7S58FLi84
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« Reply #103 on: February 23, 2012, 07:38:17 PM »

Nope this is a step called the hesitation.  The waiting we are talking about occurs at the end of every step.  Usually its the woman waiting so that the man can initiate the next step when he is ready (but it can be the other way round too).


this is the only youtube refernce I could find

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7S58FLi84

This is exactly it - watch the woman as she moves into slo-mo as she waits for hte next lead....

By the way, its pretty funny how they say tango is unique in that the man uses the woman like a musical instrument.  I think thats exactly what SG has been saying here all along, how he does not dance himself, but dances the woman.

IMO AT is one of the highest evolutions of lead-follow.
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« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2012, 11:56:05 AM »

I think thats exactly what SG has been saying here all along, how he does not dance himself, but dances the woman.
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Kind of a chicken/egg situation because the man has to do this by actions in his own body, not by physically propping the lady. 
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