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 on: June 14, 2014, 11:03:55 AM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by Some guy
Wow how interesting -  then again if I had to think of all them I would probably be too scared to take a step!  The only 'contact points' I am aware of all the time are my left and right hand, the rest happen really as they might.  That doesn't mean I am not aligned to the man in many ways but they are of decreasing importance.   Probably my most important non-hand alignment point is my sternum - but I hesitate to call it a contact point as mentally its not about that at all.

I agree, how useful would it be to a practitioner to know this information?  Quick: how many contact points do you have driving a car? You had to think about it didn't you? Did any normal driver, at any point during driving lessons or in all the years or driving since then, need to know that?

 on: June 14, 2014, 10:59:35 AM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by Some guy
I don't buy the concept of a side.  Visually, sure, it looks like you have a "side" that's uninhibited, but that's like saying that if I carry a briefcase in my right hand then the only side I have to call my own is the left, because for whatever reason my right side requires less attention.  If I, for even a second, think that, I'd start to move really laboriously and quite unattractively. Chances are, my briefcase won't feel the love either.  If the man doesn't pay attention to sides and moves his entire body naturally, in my opinion, there couldn't be a stronger and clearer lead.  When I dance with a woman who's entire body, both sides, isn't filled to the brim with chi, it's a terrible feeling: I asked a whole lady to dance, why am I getting cheated with only 50%?

 on: June 14, 2014, 10:45:19 AM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by Some guy
I think there are advantages and disadvantages to Youtube.  The advantage is that you can find some really good demonstrations of ballroom dancing, provided you know where to look.  No other generation of dancers had this gold mine at their disposal. Bad thing, as in all things visual, is that you don't see things as they are: you only see things as you are. Case in point, the worst teacher can look at a video of Mr. X and say, "watch how much he bends his knees", but if it were at all possible to have a chat with him, chances are he'll disagree with what you think he's doing.

Of course, the student who learned all the wrong things would project it all into what he/she is seeing and completely miss the truth.

 on: June 14, 2014, 10:31:21 AM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by Some guy
I think you can learn more off the floor than on.  The floor can be used as a test-drive, occasionally, to see if things have improved, but other than that, I don't believe that being off for even a year would make you lose anything, other than a little stamina, maybe... But you can get that back in a week or two if you needed to. This is only for the folks who believe dancing is walking: to the folks who ascribe to the thought pattern that dancing is bunch of unnatural unrelated-to-gender movements (men and women practicing the same hip movements and posture: shudder!) will obviously have to spend more time doing the unnatural in a dance studio where they won't be mistaken in public for employees of the Ministry of Silly Walks.

 on: June 14, 2014, 10:15:09 AM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by Some guy
I think education is education, and what you want versus what you get depends on the quality of educator you use.  College ballroom is an interesting example.  Everyone is spending money to go to college ("uni" for the Aussies) because of the college's reputation and quality of professors. Otherwise they'd pay other students to learn, buy books written by other students (much cheaper, I would presume, if there was a market for it), and wish and hope that they got lucky with the students they chose as educators.  Quite the gamble.

I know some of the best coaches in the world with the actual results to back it up that cost one third the price of the so called, "top coaches".  So cost is not necessarily dependent on quality.  Even if the per lesson cost is high, cost-benefit analyses need to be done.  You can pay $50 an hour to learn something in 10 lessons, or pay $100 an hour to a good pro and learn it in half a lesson.  In my case, the coach I found could teach in one day what nearly all other coaches I went to tried to teach me for years.  Sure, I went through a bazillion before I found her, but the reason is because I asked all the wrong questions when choosing a coach.  I should've treated ballroom dancing as, "education": my problems would've been significantly less. When I'm choosing a college, if I use cost as the primary factor, chances are that I would be taking a massive gamble on the quality of education I will be getting. Of course, if the university has an insanely high reputation with a super low cost (there are ballroom coaches like that out there) then you hit the education jackpot.

 on: June 14, 2014, 09:51:58 AM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by Some guy
To answer the original question as to when the fall stops, I would say each bar is a fall. Use gravity to take you through each bar.

 on: June 12, 2014, 01:10:57 AM 
Started by QPO - Last post by Rugby
Some couples and judges have gone back and forth or compete / judge in both WDSF and WDC so hard to say how much they change styles / judging depending on whose comp they are in /judging.  I find the WDSF more flamboyant but I could be wrong.

 on: June 10, 2014, 05:33:22 PM 
Started by QPO - Last post by elisedance
But they could do that without actual bias since the two orgs seem to favour different styles - at least for standard.  Is that also true for latin?

 on: June 10, 2014, 03:21:50 PM 
Started by QPO - Last post by Rugby
In a way it has kind of happened since there are judges that are in both organizations so judge for both.  Of course, and thus the reason dancing will not get into the Olympics any time soon, I have heard in some cases that the judges favour the couples, who say were from WDC in a WDSF comps or vice versa, that they themselves were more aligned with.  I am sure QPO has seen or heard of this too.

 on: June 10, 2014, 10:52:17 AM 
Started by QPO - Last post by elisedance
Wouldn't it be great if they had competitions judged by each other's judges?  It would be so interesting to see who won....

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