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 91 
 on: July 18, 2014, 01:05:43 PM 
Started by Some guy - Last post by Some guy
I get how in Pro-Am there might be the feeling that the pro's main driving force is not the enjoyment of dancing with his/her am partners, but realistically, how many partnerships are there where the partnership is about the... well.. partnership?

In my experience, most amateurs, even pros, are dancing with whoever they're dancing with because that's the best they could get their hands on.  If a better prospect presents themselves, the partner will be gone in a heartbeat.  That means that it's the results and placing that takes center stage, while dancing with someone you like to dance with is... these days, a rare bonus.  This doesn't refer to the partnerships where there is romantic involvement, obviously, but those are not what I'm referring to.

It's interesting what EE said in another thread about the reason she's not dancing pro-am.  Coincidentally, it's the reason I'm not dancing am-am.  I want a partner who wants to dance with me, not use me as a means to an end.  To me, it's about the dancing and the enjoyment of it.  Most people who ask me to dance are only doing so because they're thinking about the potential in terms of placing and performance.  It has NOTHING to do with who I am, what my philosophy is on dancing, what I define as "dancing", what makes me enjoy it, or why I do it.  So I'm under no delusion to think that the person dancing with me is dancing because they want to dance with me.  It took me a while to realize what dancing is all about to me, and once I did that, the partnerships of yore didn't cut it for me.  So I guess I my point is, pro-am is driven by factors other than the partnership itself, but that's not very different from a lot of am-am partnerships is it?

 92 
 on: July 18, 2014, 07:52:50 AM 
Started by QPO - Last post by elisedance
So I see it as 60% art 40% emotion.  Athletics is only a tool that allow you to achieve those two goals and should never really be noticed.  Indeed, if I do notice it I mark the couple down as having to try too hard.

Its like playing in tune.  Music is not nice if out of tune - but if you play perfectly so you sound no different from a simulated MP3.  You have to generate an in-tune note with nuances of expression (meaning going out of tune).  I don't want to think 'wow that person is playing in tune'  I want to think 'wow that person is expressing the music so well'.

 93 
 on: July 18, 2014, 07:49:02 AM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by elisedance
I did the usual work as a team, support dancing regardless of who is putting on the comps etc.  The upper level dancers support and help the lower, studios work together to promote ballroom to bring more people in and of course the getting sponsors and making the dancers feel like they are important regardless of level and listen to what they say.
Great.

Any work on 'Amateur National Champions have to be WDSF?'  Or is that too close to the bone...

 94 
 on: July 17, 2014, 11:48:27 PM 
Started by Burgess Penguin - Last post by Rugby
The dress started out long but has gotten shorter with time from the fraying in the breeze.

 95 
 on: July 17, 2014, 11:10:45 PM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by Rugby
I did the usual work as a team, support dancing regardless of who is putting on the comps etc.  The upper level dancers support and help the lower, studios work together to promote ballroom to bring more people in and of course the getting sponsors and making the dancers feel like they are important regardless of level and listen to what they say.

 96 
 on: July 17, 2014, 11:06:51 PM 
Started by QPO - Last post by Rugby
I must admit that I see dancing as 75% art and 25% athletics.  I want to see the grace and beauty of two bodies moving as one to the music.  Not just any music but the music that is playing.  In this I mean that every waltz should be different depending on the waltz being played and such with the other dances.  The bodies are kind of an equalizer that reflects the music, or, as one hip hop studio in my subdivision says, sound in motion.

 97 
 on: July 17, 2014, 10:40:02 PM 
Started by QPO - Last post by elisedance
Above everything I look for grace in Standard dancing.  Sorry, but I don't see much of it in the WDSF athletic style.  I want Torville and Dean to touch my heart..

 98 
 on: July 17, 2014, 10:37:37 PM 
Started by Burgess Penguin - Last post by elisedance
yea, bet she's cot the dizzies...

 99 
 on: July 17, 2014, 10:36:54 PM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by elisedance
Do you think you would ever try Pro/Am again ee?
The problem is that I want a partner that wants to dance with me because they enjoy it - the pro-am concept can accommodate that but my experience is that its unusual.  Least I don't end up feeling it.

So its very unlikely.

 100 
 on: July 17, 2014, 10:34:58 PM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by elisedance
Thanks e, I had a quiet birthday.  Well, I should say I had to go to the ODS AGM that day.  It was a drag that it was on my birthday but I couldn't give everyone else the speech about not going then not go myself.  Lead by example I guess. 
maybe you made a difference too?

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