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 on: July 20, 2014, 03:45:27 AM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by QPO
For social dancers,stamina doesn't make a whole lot of difference.  If you're tired, you sit one out.

But,for competitive dancers, stamina or lack thereof can make the difference between making it through the final round looking and feeling fresh or wilting like yesterday's flowers.

So.  Competitive dancers, what kinds of things do you incorporate into your training program to build stamina?  Do you run rounds?  Do you cross train?Or does stamina automatically come along for the ride, when you do your other dance training?

I was having some issues with it, especially when we went to comps which are higher above the sea level compared to where we live. So my pro suggested I add intervals to my cardio workouts. So I've been doing those several times a week for the last 4 months, and I upped my cardio time in general. It really helped, since I just did a Colorado Starball (1 mile above sea level, compared to some paltry 800-900 feet here), and didn't feel the effects of the altitude, and I didn't bother with flying there early to acclimate either. Although I have also taken some extra iron for a couple of weeks before going there - that probably helped too.

depending on the length of flight we recently flew to Spain for the Seniors III worlds and we only got there one day before the comp. well that was not good. I will make sure that there is a minimum of two days :-/. But I think there has to be a combination of this for stamina training and skipping is another. We went to a comp in Italy ad a couple were from Finland (Seniors III) and they had skipping wrongs with them very thin ones. not sure what they were intending to do with them as we went back to our room to get warmer cloths as the weather change. when we got back they left and did not dance. Shame as I would have like to see how they did things and danced.

 on: July 20, 2014, 03:41:44 AM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by QPO
we use social dance as our stamina training. as we know most of the NV  dancers and the songs they play re for three minutes, we maintain shape and styling for that duration, where as on the comp floor  most of the time it is a1.20 and max 2.00.

We always have a cardiac bracket which is VW, tango and quickstep one after the other for three minutes that will do it and we do that twice during the evening. Trying to dance very dance with quality is the best stamina training you can have.
I agree, I think the social dance is a terrific opportunity to practice a lot of things for competition, including endurance.  Like QPO said, each dance is usually played much longer and with all the other couples on the floor, floor craft and endurance can both be checked off. Social dancing, used together with rounds training, can eliminate physical and mental endurance issues.

Nice to hear from you SG

 on: July 20, 2014, 03:40:01 AM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by QPO
trying to clean up. my house looked after the dog but not the house  Roll Eyes

 on: July 20, 2014, 03:39:19 AM 
Started by QPO - Last post by QPO
Hi there stranger!  What a European tour that was.  How did you both manage to get so much time off?

we are entitled to 20 days per year annual leave in Australia. and I don't go on leave for 18 months so we can then have up to six weeks. I now pick comps that are on Saturdays so I dont have to take time off of work. I also work through my lunch hours most weeks and my boss then does not mind if I leave early on a Friday to travel. Cheesy 

If I run out then it is leave without pay, but I have not had to do that yet.

 on: July 20, 2014, 03:34:42 AM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by QPO
Happy Birthday Rugby...we are in the same month Cheesy hope you ad a good day

 on: July 19, 2014, 04:54:59 AM 
Started by Some guy - Last post by elisedance
I should add the caveat that quite a lot of AM partnerships involve cash too.  The common example is the ace male dancer from an economically disadvantaged area that is imported and supported for the aspiring, and rich, female dancer.  Its not often talked about but really is a pro-am relationship.

 on: July 19, 2014, 04:52:07 AM 
Started by Some guy - Last post by elisedance
Hey, wanna dance? 

There is an additional difference between AM-Am and Pro-Am - at least in most cases: money.  At least in AM-AM you get together as a team to challenge other couples and you ultimately both have to make sacrifices for the partnership to survive, let alone succeed.  Thus, you have the feeling that its us against them.  Of course this is only the competitive aspect of dance, with respect to the artistic, emotional and, yes affectionate, aspects its not that different from pro-am.

In pro-am you are (usually) not even teaming up to challenge other couples.  The whole way its set up is that the pro is an expert dancer and you are a relative beginner - that's why they call you a 'student'. It would not matter if you had just retired as the world AM chamption, once you started dancing with a self-styled pro you would automatically be a 'student' to their perfection.  Often the pros go even further and distance themselves from their AM partners to make it very clear who the expert is.  They talk about 'their student did very well' which I think is insulting since it demeans the ability of the AM to allow the pro to dance.  IMO an amateur should be referred to as a student while they are in syllabus but once they reach championship level they should be referred to as an AM partner, to recognize their achievement and individual skills. 

This is of course a generalization there are also wonderful pro-am partnerships where there is clearly a mutual respect but even there the partnership only survives as long as the pocketbook is fed.  This is a reality that one can not get away from, at least I can't.  Thus, while AM couples dance together out of a mutual need to compete and perform, pro-am ones do so for that reason to varying degrees but also with the elephant-in-the-room of cash.

SG: I think what you are referring to is way onto another plane, and its dancing not dancesport.  What you need is a woman that appreciates and needs your artistry and expression and who feels likewise from you.  We say that finding a dance partner is far harder than finding a life-partner.  What you seek is both in the same person.  Oh, I wish so so much that I could find you that person because your dancing would be truly devine.  Think of the occasional couple that really click emotionally and dancewise - Luca and Lorraine (in earlier times of course), William Pino & Alessandra Bucciarelli etc

 on: July 19, 2014, 03:26:55 AM 
Started by QPO - Last post by elisedance
Hi there stranger!  What a European tour that was.  How did you both manage to get so much time off?

 on: July 19, 2014, 12:15:26 AM 
Started by QPO - Last post by QPO
In a way it has kind of happened since there are judges that are in both organizations so judge for both.  Of course, and thus the reason dancing will not get into the Olympics any time soon, I have heard in some cases that the judges favour the couples, who say were from WDC in a WDSF comps or vice versa, that they themselves were more aligned with.  I am sure QPO has seen or heard of this too.

Hey ladies. so for waiting for a response. Internet was not good while traveling. but the divide is well entrenched here and judges penalise dancers depending on their preference. We also had that in Europe too. Our results were much better at at ADC comp than WDSF.

I will write more later about my expereince

 on: July 18, 2014, 02:11:23 PM 
Started by QPO - Last post by Rugby
Yes, musicality is very important.  I agree with what you are saying.

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