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 41 
 on: May 17, 2015, 08:03:59 PM 
Started by ZPomeroy - Last post by sandralw
That's really interesting, I once won a competition dancing complete basics in an open-amateur comp and boy were we surprised when we were announced first ahead of the other 10 or so couples who were seasoned open competitors poised to wiper the floor with us! The favorite to win was devastated as they had been undefeated in my state. Turns out, there were 7 European and 6 American judges. One guess as to which side marked us all first and marked them last.

Yep ... Good dancing is good dancing and that's what the Americans forget to / or are just not all educated enough to pay attention to... Hmmm...

 42 
 on: May 17, 2015, 08:01:21 PM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by sandralw

I agree with the third eye. You cant rely on the mirror so then you go on feel that that is just not reliable either, just because if feels good does not mean it is good.  You can get used to the connection between yourself and your partner which feels normal but not good!

And video taping is good but not at the same time also.  It is only as good as it's positioning and sometimes it is just not in the correct place to see something clearly and accurately.  Also, it too is a 2-dimensional viewpoint. 


 43 
 on: May 17, 2015, 07:41:56 PM 
Started by QPO - Last post by QPO
We have a young couple training at our studio they are cousins, what is most disturbing is that there is no improvement, they obviously dont train and you can see in the lesson they are quite flighty. The female coach is very patient but I feel it is time to be a bit firmer. So what do you think do you let them plod along getting nowhere or risk the potential of them quitting because you are pushing them more, but if you dont try they are not going to improve.

 44 
 on: May 17, 2015, 07:38:46 PM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by QPO
My husband is 6' 3" and I am 5'7" so we are quite well suited Cheesy

 45 
 on: May 17, 2015, 07:36:16 PM 
Started by ZPomeroy - Last post by QPO
well I think when you can do basics and do them well there is less stress and it shows in your dancing. in the other style we do which is New Vogue we have also gone back to basics and kept more connection rather than open holds less chance of not matching but it looks cleaner and I believe there is a movement happening for others to do the same.

 46 
 on: May 17, 2015, 07:32:00 PM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by QPO
Interesting conversation... When I was actively competing in Pro/Am I loved when coaches came in to guest coach.  I always learned so much!  My dancing would always improve with the gain in knowledge.  Having another opinion, a clean, unbiased eye and new verbiage to listen to was appealing. 

Now that I am reaching one of my favorite things is to guest coach.  Most of what I do is what they did for me... Problem solve.  Not a quick fix, but the ability to see what is the trouble spot and analyze why it is and find the solution that works.

Unfortunately, especially in Pro/Am (but also in Am/Am) when using (or trying) to use mirrors it gives a distorted view of what is being danced.  You are receiving a 2 dimensional view of a 3-dimensional action.  And you may be forcing yourself to try and "see" and not dance.  Then it all goes wrong.

With the "third eye" it becomes an entirely different point of focus.  Also, what may be importiant to one person is not always as importiant to another.  So, what catches one person's eye and may be terribly importiant may be a bit less so to someone else.  And the information (though it may not be 100% new) may just be the thing you need to hear at that time and the bells ring, the light bulb turns on... YES!!  You Ah Ha moment...

I agree with the third eye. You cant rely on the mirror so then you go on feel that that is just not reliable either, just because if feels good does not mean it is good.  You can get used to the connection between yourself and your partner which feels normal but not good!

 47 
 on: May 17, 2015, 07:29:19 PM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by QPO
I think it needs to be more specificly broken down as to whether you are asking about your standing leg or your swinging leg and whether you are dealing with pendulum swing or metronomic swing.  Each is different in relationship to the floor and in the use of ones self and how and when the weight of the body travels in, through and out of the standing foot.  Also, it will again be different when it is a travelling step versus a rotational step.

yes I can visualise that so ineffect the turn should be effected by the correct use of hip rotation, rather than using the other joints first as what I see a lot of people doing.

 48 
 on: May 17, 2015, 07:21:53 PM 
Started by ZPomeroy - Last post by Some guy
That's really interesting, I once won a competition dancing complete basics in an open-amateur comp and boy were we surprised when we were announced first ahead of the other 10 or so couples who were seasoned open competitors poised to wiper the floor with us! The favorite to win was devastated as they had been undefeated in my state. Turns out, there were 7 European and 6 American judges. One guess as to which side marked us all first and marked them last.

 49 
 on: May 17, 2015, 07:14:05 PM 
Started by elam63 - Last post by Some guy
It's sad that some, if not most, people see this as good dancing and chase after this, rather than the real thing. They follow the idol, and not the ideal. Not realizing that they're idol is someone many of the greatest dancers wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole, let alone dance with, but have no choice than to mark them first in a field where everyone is trying to emulate this WWF style of...dare I say, "dancing".

 50 
 on: May 17, 2015, 07:13:10 PM 
Started by elam63 - Last post by Some guy
Actually Elise, that's the sugar coated version. What I really wanted to type was much more, shall we say, stringent.

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