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 31 
 on: March 13, 2015, 07:30:12 AM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by elisedance
yes the difficulty of good dancing is underestimated. those that make it look effortless have practiced many hours and the lucky few who managed to understand the relationship of connection with your partner much sooner than others...lucky you

Although I think the teachers you grow into also help. sometimes you just cant absorb advice in the beginning and you have to crawl before you walk Cheesy

It could just be that those that make it look easy are doing something COMPLETELY different than what you're trying to do. 

Just because they can do it, doesn't mean they have any clue what they're actually doing, and hence, probably can't teach it.  Also, out of curiousity, who among the top dancers today make ANYTHING look effortless?  It all looks so painful and barely resembles ballroom dancing. 

I find it so hard to relate to any of the posts lately.  Dancing way to the right of the man, the lady having to be able to dance by herself... what on earth is going on in the world of ballroom dancing? 

The way I see it, the basic partnering skills were too hard to master, so let's just shelve the whole partnering thing (queue ending warehouse scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark), get two people to pretend they're dancing together by holding onto each other and making arbitrary body parts stay in contact so it looks like a partner-dance in pictures and videos, let's forget the embrace and the communication and protection that comes with it, and let's have couples each doing their own thing and falling over if they're unable to defend themselves individually. Let's take away the elegance and power of a real throwaway oversway and make it more like a bowl-away-over-kneel so that we can get the look, albeit a little ridiculous and fake, without the intricate intermingling of male and female energy that's required to create the power and resulting lines, and heck, while we're at it, let's call it "Dancesport" and never call it ballroom dancing again.  That last part is the ONLY part that makes sense to me. Kudos to whoever decided to change the name.

I guess I have to specify from now on that I'm not a Dancesport athlete in any way shape or form. I'm a ballroom dancer, an artist, and to me, "Dancesport" sounds just as ridiculous as "Musicsport", or more specifically "Violinsport" or "Pianosport".  The only difference here is the instrument is our own body versus the violin or piano.  The similarity is that the violin/piano will get destroyed if they were treated the way the bodies are treated today, with nothing remotely resembling music coming out of the instrument.
I'm quoting this because its just so darn true I want it to appear twice.  I'll do better...

 32 
 on: March 13, 2015, 07:07:52 AM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by elisedance
I hope all these in juries are not dance-related.  It would be a shame regardless, but especially so if it was due to the dancing itself.

Since so many people dance for many years without injuring themselves it seems likely that injuries are either: unrelated to the dancing; particular to an individuals biology, or are due to bad teaching/technique.  So you really have to figure it out case-by-case...

 33 
 on: March 12, 2015, 04:09:47 PM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by Some guy
Here's what happened to partnering skills in ballroom dancing when it was moved over to Dancesport:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgqRF1hpdHc

 Cheesy

 34 
 on: March 12, 2015, 04:03:38 PM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by Some guy
yes the difficulty of good dancing is underestimated. those that make it look effortless have practiced many hours and the lucky few who managed to understand the relationship of connection with your partner much sooner than others...lucky you

Although I think the teachers you grow into also help. sometimes you just cant absorb advice in the beginning and you have to crawl before you walk Cheesy

It could just be that those that make it look easy are doing something COMPLETELY different than what you're trying to do. 

Just because they can do it, doesn't mean they have any clue what they're actually doing, and hence, probably can't teach it.  Also, out of curiousity, who among the top dancers today make ANYTHING look effortless?  It all looks so painful and barely resembles ballroom dancing. 

I find it so hard to relate to any of the posts lately.  Dancing way to the right of the man, the lady having to be able to dance by herself... what on earth is going on in the world of ballroom dancing? 

The way I see it, the basic partnering skills were too hard to master, so let's just shelve the whole partnering thing (queue ending warehouse scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark), get two people to pretend they're dancing together by holding onto each other and making arbitrary body parts stay in contact so it looks like a partner-dance in pictures and videos, let's forget the embrace and the communication and protection that comes with it, and let's have couples each doing their own thing and falling over if they're unable to defend themselves individually. Let's take away the elegance and power of a real throwaway oversway and make it more like a bowl-away-over-kneel so that we can get the look, albeit a little ridiculous and fake, without the intricate intermingling of male and female energy that's required to create the power and resulting lines, and heck, while we're at it, let's call it "Dancesport" and never call it ballroom dancing again.  That last part is the ONLY part that makes sense to me. Kudos to whoever decided to change the name.

I guess I have to specify from now on that I'm not a Dancesport athlete in any way shape or form. I'm a ballroom dancer, an artist, and to me, "Dancesport" sounds just as ridiculous as "Musicsport", or more specifically "Violinsport" or "Pianosport".  The only difference here is the instrument is our own body versus the violin or piano.  The similarity is that the violin/piano will get destroyed if they were treated the way the bodies are treated today, with nothing remotely resembling music coming out of the instrument.

 35 
 on: March 12, 2015, 03:45:26 PM 
Started by phoenix13 - Last post by Some guy
I hope all these in juries are not dance-related.  It would be a shame regardless, but especially so if it was due to the dancing itself.

 36 
 on: March 03, 2015, 08:59:05 PM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by elisedance
Got out of the stone age and replaced my ailing technology with 2 new computers (desktop AND laptop), new Samsung Galaxy smartphone and about to add a Galaxy tablet.  Grin

Will also be doing a guest DJ slot @ Waltz Play here in Atlanta in the very near future. MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Grin
Awesome Smiley

 37 
 on: March 03, 2015, 06:27:32 PM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by Burgess Penguin
Got out of the stone age and replaced my ailing technology with 2 new computers (desktop AND laptop), new Samsung Galaxy smartphone and about to add a Galaxy tablet.  Grin

Will also be doing a guest DJ slot @ Waltz Play here in Atlanta in the very near future. MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Grin

 38 
 on: February 24, 2015, 11:18:37 PM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by elisedance
Actually I think you are right - I'm beginning to forget - but I did do all the motions on my own centre - my partner only provided where they should be done and initiated the speed.  How soon we forget.

Not sure why I'm running this place any more Undecided


well it is like riding a bike, if you can get to get back on the floor it will come back very quickly.

I guess it could happen - probably after I retire and get bored!

 39 
 on: February 23, 2015, 07:39:44 AM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by QPO
Actually I think you are right - I'm beginning to forget - but I did do all the motions on my own centre - my partner only provided where they should be done and initiated the speed.  How soon we forget.

Not sure why I'm running this place any more Undecided


well it is like riding a bike, if you can get to get back on the floor it will come back very quickly.

 40 
 on: February 23, 2015, 07:39:07 AM 
Started by elisedance - Last post by QPO
yes the difficulty of good dancing is underestimated. those that make it look effortless have practiced many hours and the lucky few who managed to understand the relationship of connection with your partner much sooner than others...lucky you

Although I think the teachers you grow into also help. sometimes you just cant absorb advice in the beginning and you have to crawl before you walk Cheesy

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